On 09/14/2015 12:04 PM, Adam Williamson wrote:
On Mon, 2015-09-14 at 12:45 +0200, Reindl Harald wrote:
> and much more important:
>
> if Fedora changes to more and more recommend "pip", "gem" and
"cpan"
> like installs instead RPM packages it is no longer a distribution
> over the long because that would mean finally you have a core OS and
> handle anything else like Microsoft or Apple - does anybody really want to
> go that road?
I do. Yes. Or rather, I'd say we're already doing this, we're just not
clear that we *know* it.
....
And of course there is the brave new world of containers. There is
currently no 'official' way (so far as I'm aware) to deploy containers
on Fedora: absolutely everyone who's running Fedora as a container
host OS is working entirely outside the lines of the distribution-as-
software-provider.
So do we still believe we're not doing this already?
I take your point that an orthodox base system approach is not
sufficient. What I am worried about, though, is the plethora of
solutions we are considering to address that: package-specific
installers, bundling, containers, Composer, secondary repos like Fusion
and COPR, and I am sure I forgot something else. It just screams
'combinatorial explosion', with red carpet and a big neon saying
'combinatorial explosion' over it.
It's great that we have a discussion about which approach is best, but I
think we should try to pick _something_, rather than giving up and
welcoming all of them. Of course, at the moment it's entirely unclear
and premature to decide, but I believe that at least we should recognize
that "there should be only one" eventually.