Le 2019-07-22 17:29, Pierre-Yves Chibon a écrit :
On Mon, Jul 22, 2019 at 11:19:17AM +0200, Nicolas Mailhot via devel
wrote:
> Le 2019-07-22 10:22, Miro Hrončok a écrit :
>
> > Personally, I wish we had spent less engineering time in
> > infrastructure on Modularity and more on the contributor UX :(
>
> It’s not just Modularity. Modularity is just a symptom. There is
> something
> deeply broken in the Red Hat / Fedora interface.
>
> RHEL made Red Hat fortunes. It’s what justified the billions IBM paid
> for it
> (RHEL is the only Red Hat product where Red Hat completely dominates
> the
> market, even the best other offerings, like OpenShift, are just one
> among
> many).
>
> And Fedora is RHEL’s future.
>
> And yet what do we see ?
A team that is over-committed and try to scale down to narrow its focus
and be
in a position to help more the project?
And to reinforce, I am speaking about *a team*, not in anyway the whole
of Red
Hat.
Yes, sure, and it’s way better to scale down in a planned way than
explode in flight like happened Java SIG. But, in the end, it’s the same
root cause: inadequate level of resources just to keep going, because
the problem space became more rich and complex, but the level of
investment didn’t follow.
And I realize it’s a lot easier to write for someone not working @rh,
and I’m probably making a lot of persons on the list uncomfortable, but
how many Fedora activities need to scale down or close before someone
tells the @rh higher ups there is a problem?
[...]
> Huge Red Hat investments, in the container ecosystem. And yet we get
> told
> CPE is downsizing its activities, in part because all the new cool
> things
> happen in the container space, contributors want to work on cool
> things,
> Fedora/RHEL is absent from this space, packaging the things
> containerized
> infra need is an afterthought.
Could you expend what you mean here? I really do not follow how you go
from that
first sentence to the second.
That was given as one of the reasons in the thread: CPE is downsizing,
in part because there are less outsiders willing to work, because the
cool stuff is container-side, and CPE does not do it. So we’ve slowly
gotten to the point, where non-Fedora @rh initiatives, are vacuuming the
cool factor space, that Fedora needs to survive and grow.
--
Nicolas Mailhot