I refined the the Detailed Description   per the questions concerning
the Fedora Spin development.
Fedora Netizen is an open source operating system for enabling internet
citizens, also known as netizens, to engage online services and
communities. Fedora Netizen includes software packages for focusing on
civic engagement and internet safety features related to security and
Nonprofit Organizations and public agencies will benefit from Fedora
Netizen by switching to free open-source software (FOSS) for running public
services on the Internet. Fedora Netizen empowers netizens with their
online activism for changing the world with the help of open source
I removed the psychology topics since it seemed to be a bit confusing to
others which means users would also have been confused about the spin.
Regarding the listing of the packages, my intent is to simply make users
aware of what open source software is included in the spin by categorizing
the packages. I intend to include best practices, how-to's, and other
related documentation on a spin related website for the user to configure
and customize on their own after reading documentation.
Regarding the trademark concern, a strong mark is actually what the USPTO
looks for when a trademark is filed, rather than a weak, generic mark.
Netizen is unique, specific, and non-generic so I would not expect any
questions from the USPTO when filed. I have experience with filing
successful trademarks in the past which is why I chose a stronger mark such
as Netizen for passing a USPTO review.
I wish to continue the discussion for this spin for F23 approval. If I did
not address a question or concern still, please let me know.
On Mon, Jun 8, 2015 at 2:41 PM, Kevin Fenzi <kevin(a)scrye.com> wrote:
On Mon, 8 Jun 2015 15:18:12 +0000
Debarshi Ray <rishi.is(a)lostca.se> wrote:
> On Thu, Jun 04, 2015 at 10:45:20AM -0600, Kevin Fenzi wrote:
> > Ideally it would not only install those packages, but configure
> > them to a default to privacy setup. Additionally making some other
> > changes from default desktop settings to do that as well. This is
> > something that could be done in the spin %post or the like (all the
> > other spins setup various config there), or perhaps in a seperate
> > package like a 'netizen-privacy' that makes those changes.
> But, but ...
> > So, you not only include say tor, but you setup the browser to use
> > it by default, etc.
> ... then there is the issue of choice. I am paranoid, but I also have
> strong opinions on how my desktop should look and behave. Will we be
> offering different variants of the Netizen spin, then?
> Or have we finally given up on this choice thing? ;)
No. I am not sure what point you are trying to make here...
can you try and rephrase or clarify?
You can still install and configure tor on any install.
I think it pretty unlikely that tor setup would be default on all
installs. Tor is slow, many people don't want it.
Having a spin where it's setup and configured for you could be a useful
starting point for some people who desire that. You can always adjust
> You could take that as a general criticism of most of the non-DE spins
> out there.
They are handy starting points, IMHO.
> I would be happier if someone did the hard work of making things more
> secure, in the products and spins that we already have. I don't think
> our users should have to choose between a more secure and a less
> secure Fedora. eg., just because someone wants to use Tor, doesn't
> mean that she should have to install a different flavour of
> Fedora. She should be able to configure it in any of the flavours or
> products that she is already using.
Sure and they can.
There's (as always) many ways to the same goals here.
* A spin that is configured so people have an example and starting
* Better out of the box config on packages (like tor) that make it
easier to set them up and configure things to use them.
* Better docs on how to do the above.
Look at all that choice!
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