On 3/3/22 16:49, Richard W.M. Jones wrote:
On Thu, Mar 03, 2022 at 08:14:20PM +0100, Kamil Dudka wrote:
> On Thursday, March 3, 2022 3:24:38 PM CET Richard W.M. Jones wrote:
>> On Thu, Mar 03, 2022 at 09:04:10AM +0100, Kamil Dudka wrote:
>>> The FTP protocol is still included in libcurl-minimal, so the protocol is
>>> not going to disappear with the proposed F37 change. On the other
>>> hand, it may happen that FTP will be unavailable by default in a year or
>>> two.
>>
>>
>> I'm still wondering what you're trying to achieve with this change.
>>
>> The stated benefits[1] are that the "minimal variants are smaller",
>> which is a non-goal for almost everyone. And something to do with
>> security which will be immediately negated once everyone unbreaks
>> their Fedora by installing curl-full. And the security angle would be
>> better fixed by reviewing Fedora packages for correct use of
>> CURLOPT_PROTOCOLS (see my other email[2]).
>>
>> Rich.
>>
>> [1]
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/CurlMinimal_as_Default#Benefit_to_...
>> [2]
ttps://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@lists.fedoraproject.or...
>
> I answered both your questions back in October 2021:
>
>
https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@lists.fedoraproject.o...
FTR you didn't actually answer the points there.
(1) I don't deny that curl-minimal will reduce the size of some niche
containers, my point is this is not a worthwhile goal to pursue given
the costs.
(2) Once people have unbroken their Fedora by installing curl-full,
the security claims you make about compiled code paths are not
applicable.
Not everyone will need to install curl-full! One of my VMs only has
curl-minimal and works fine for my uses. Another approach would be to
limit CURLOPT_REDIR_PROTOCOLS by default; I doubt many people are using
redirects to protocols other than HTTP or HTTPS. However, these are
independent of each other.
--
Sincerely,
Demi Marie Obenour (she/her/hers)