And _maintain_ them, with all security fixes.
The problem with duplication is above all one of scalability of
maintenance.
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From: "Aleksandar Kurtakov" <akurtako(a)redhat.com>
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Subject: Re: What would it take to make Software Collections work in Fedora?
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> From: "Mark Bidewell" <mbidewel(a)gmail.com>
> To: "Development discussions related to Fedora"
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> Sent: Thursday, December 6, 2012 5:50:03 PM
> Subject: Re: What would it take to make Software Collections work
> in Fedora?
>
>
> On Thu, Dec 6, 2012 at 10:06 AM, Adam Williamson <
> awilliam(a)redhat.com > wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> On Thu, 2012-12-06 at 15:30 +0100, Nicolas Mailhot wrote:
> > IMHO use of software collections is a symptom of a badly run
> > organisation
> > not devoting enough cycles to maintain the software it uses, and
> > hoping
> > (as in wishful thinking) no problem will go critical before the
> > product
> > they built on top of those collections is end-of-lifed
> >
> > I completely fail to see how entities with that problem will
> > manage
> > to
> > maintain the package number explosion creating software
> > collections
> > will
> > induce.
>
> On the one hand, I agree completely - I think the 'share all
> dependencies dynamically' model that Linux distros have
> traditionally
> embraced is the right one, and that we're a strong vector for
> spreading
> the gospel when it comes to that model, and it'd be a shame to
> compromise that.
>
> On the other hand, we've been proselytizing the Java heretics for
> over a
> decade now, and the Ruby ones for a while, and neither shows any
> signs
> of conversion or just plain going away, so we may have to call it
> an
> ecumenical matter and deal with their models somehow. Sucky as it
> may
> be. I don't know, I'm a bit conflicted.
>
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> I used to use Fedora as my primary OS (Now I use a Mac). The major
> issue which drove me away and which I believe SC would help to
> solve
> is that with the current dependency model is that it becomes I want
> a new version of Libreoffice so now I have to upgrade my entire
> system from the Kernel on up (and by upgrade I mean clean install)
> to avoid issues. SC would help decouple system and userland apps
> which would do wonders for usability.
So are you saying that you will do the scl enabled builds of
libraries needed by LibreOffice ?
Alexander Kurtakov
Red Hat Eclipse team
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