2016-11-15 15:35 GMT+01:00 Stephen John Smoogen <smooge(a)gmail.com>:
On 15 November 2016 at 01:35, Andreas Tunek
> 2016-11-15 1:06 GMT+01:00 Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek <zbyszek(a)in.waw.pl>:
>> You seem to confuse something being in the release criteria, and
>> something being possible. But that's secondary. If you would like this
>> scenario to be supported, then commit to testing it before the next
>> release (in advance, at least a week before the beta freeze).
> If something is in the release criteria I expect the feature to be
> present in the release. If the feature in question has worked for ~20
> Fedora releases it is not my first priority to test, unless there is
> specific communication otherwise, like specific "Mac install testing
> days" (which to my knowledge there hasn't been).
You seem to be under a misapprehension on how distributions are
built.. even ones which are paid for. In any distribution, if
something is important then the stakeholders (the people who think it
is important) make sure that it is funded so that the resources are
there for testing. That funding in a corporate distribution is in
paying for equipment, staff and hours to get that item tested and
developed. In a 'free' distribution, that funding is volunteering the
time to make sure it is tested. [And even in paid distributions, when
things aren't paid for and people assume that X was going to be
there.. if X isn't working on release day it comes back to the
stakeholders that they needed not to assume it would be.]
I was under the (mis?)assumption that, due to being in the release
criteria, mac "support" was important for Fedora. It seems to have
been that way for 10 years.
If that is not the case anymore it would be good if that would be
communicated in advance so that all users on mac hw could either
switch distros or gang together to make a remix or something.
As a user and very occasional contributor (mostly of bug reports) it
is very hard to know what is most important to test. AFAIK there
wasn't any "Installer test day" or anything similar. So I and a lot of
people probably tested other stuff*.
If I would have paid for RHEL 8 and it did not work on hardware that
RHEL 7.3 supported without any communication from Red Hat I would get
pissed and most probably find another vendor.
*I haven't made any bug report for F25 because all issues I found had
already been reported.
> Stephen J Smoogen.
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