On Mon, 2012-12-03 at 15:19 -0700, Tim Flink wrote:
I don't think that anyone is a huge fan of the current blocker
bug
process. I realize that the people most affected by the process are
really busy right now but I also think that it wouldn't be a bad thing
to start a conversation while the process is active and at its most
painful. I don't really want this to devolve into a long flamewar about
how bad the process is (I probably spend more time with the process
than most people, I know it has issues) but I would like to start a
conversation about some of it.
This conversation affects both test@ and devel@, so please try to send
replies to both lists.
I'm trying to think through methods to improve the process but I
ended up with some questions that need more than just my input:
How useful is it to have the blocker votes and conversation in the bug?
I think that it needs to be public, archived and easily accessible from
affected bugs but I'm questioning the value of having conversations
about blocker status within bugzilla comments.
My take on this is that 'public, archived and easily accessible' are
precisely the important criteria. The existing process was thrown
together on the back of a napkin, more or less, and tracking it in the
report itself was the obvious, easy way to do it in such a way that we
wouldn't lose the data later. I don't see any problem with doing it
somewhere else, so long as that 'somewhere else' meets the criteria.
Affected Devs:
- Do you find the blocker related conversations in bugzilla comments
helpful? Annoying? Don't really care?
- Do you want to be more involved in the blocker process? Less
involved and just notified about status changes?
Affected Voters:
- Do you vote on blocker status in bug comments?
Yes.
- Would you vote on blocker status more often if you could easily
vote
outside of meetings?
I do my best, but probably.
- Do you want to receive status updates on the bugs you vote on,
even
if those status updates don't deal directly with blocker status?
Not terribly applicable to me, as I want to know everything about just
about every bug =)
Anyhow, helpful thoughts would be appreciated. Hopefully we can
improve
the process so that it's less painful for everyone and maybe even more
useful (at the very least, less difficult to understand).
I don't want to overplay how bad the current system is, to be honest.
It's a duct tape job, sure, but it's survived as long as it has because
it actually achieves its goals fairly efficiently. I think we can
definitely build something more solid, but let's not throw out any
babies...
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