Paul Frields <stickster(a)gmail.com> writes:
Neal Gompa <ngompa13(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> Nicolas Mailhot wrote:
>> Leigh Griffin a écrit :
>>
>>> To distill it down:
>>>
>>> - Gitlab has more features that are needed right now for our
>>> stakeholder group
>>> - Gitlab has an entire company dedicated to roadmap features, we do
>>> not.
>>
>> Unfortunately, Gitlab’s roadmap is also conflicting with Fedora
>> objectives. The bread and butter of Gitlab is intermediating between
>> devs and end users, culling free software intermediaries like
>> distributions, and positionning itself in their stead. That is
>> unlikely to result in any commitment to making distribution
>> workflows work.
>>
>> That would not be a problem if the disintermediation worked, but
>> like many actors Gitlab sees the $$$ and power in being the
>> desintermediator, and does not care if the result is deffective, as
>> long as $$$ and power flows its way.
>
> It's also important to note that at the core of GitLab's incentive
> model is that they want to remove incentives to use FOSS solutions in
> favor of their unified proprietary solution. They are constantly
> integrating features and capabilities into the proprietary parts to
> make it "juicier" for enterprises who don't really have a compunction
> about whether they are using Free Software solutions or not, or even
> may not be willing to support them if it was Free Software because of
> outmoded thinking.
>
> The consequence of this is that it starves interest and development in
> FOSS solutions, and contributes to making the FOSS ecosystem weaker
> over time.
That statement rings hollow for me, when Github is arguably the single
biggest vendor of open source in the world, no part of itself is open
source,
I assume you didn't mean quite that. Sure, it's not totally open
source, but it's built on and uses open source tools, just like many
other applications. In a personal example, I've fixed something on
github by patching
https://github.com/jch/html-pipeline/ . Or more
bulk, there are 340 repos at
https://github.com/github .
Thanks,
--Robbie