On Mon, Jul 22, 2013 at 5:11 PM, Matthew Miller
<mattdm(a)fedoraproject.org> wrote:
On Mon, Jul 22, 2013 at 04:30:32PM +0200, Miloslav Trmač wrote:
> > Whenever I go to a tech meetup or talk to someone from a new startup
> > company, their developers are inevitably using a different (usually
> > proprietary) desktop OS, plus a non-Fedora distribution on their code.
> > We're being left behind and left out. It doesn't matter how
> > theoretically great we are if we end up with no users.
> How does the proposal actually improve this? Giving various SIGs more
> freedom to manage various stacks makes neither the core nor the stacks
> automatically any more attractive to anyone. (Even allowing stacks to
> evolve separately from the core and more in tune with upstream
> releases doesn't make the Fedora version of the stack automatically
> any more attractive than just installing the upstream version in the
> way upstream documents.)
It doesn't make it automatically more attractive, but from the feedback I've
gotten so far, the general idea _does_ make it more attractive overall.
I know I might be asking a lot, but could you expand on what exactly
is more attractive?
And, if the answer is that Fedora ends up being a great place to
install the
upstream version in the way upstream documents, is that really a problem?
Turning Fedora into a something close to a Linux from Scratch, yes,
that's kind of a problem to the historical identity of the project.
RPM has been the cornerstone and most contributors have, supposedly,
bought into the idea that using RPM is a fundamentally better way to
manage installation and management of Open Source software than
tarballs or (make install), so a turnaround to follow the exactly
opposite philosophy would be, at the very least, surprising. (That's
not to say impossible, or even automatically unreasonable given some
set of circumstances.)
Mirek