On Fri, 2009-02-27 at 12:09 -0800, Adam Williamson wrote:
On Fri, 2009-02-27 at 09:54 -0500, Jon Masters wrote:
> > It would be nice to have everyone who works on Rawhide, work *from*
> > Rawhide. I suspect this would make people generally less keen to break
> > stuff. =)
>
> That's precisely why it's not practical to use Rawhide as a day-to-day
> platform. I know others will disagree and that's fine, but I long since
> switched back to a stable Fedora 9/10 setup. It's tough enough ever
> getting a rawhide that will install, let alone not break randomly.
Chicken and egg situation. Someone has to take the leap.
Sure. I'll let someone who's not using a VPN, email, or anything
involving passwords and tokens they care about do that. Meanwhile, I'll
use something that's got signed packages for my daily stuff.
Eventually,
once enough developers are on Rawhide, there'll be a culture where
people generally don't break things too egregiously, and are immediately
complained-at if they do, workarounds become known, fixes are made
quickly. But anyhoo, I have more developed thoughts along these lines
coming in future.
I go through phases of thinking this, but then I wonder how that gels
with having the ability to be the playground of the latest and greatest
technology, which is when I realize that the two are incompatible.
> KVM is great at letting one poke safely at stuff.
Sure, but nothing beats hardware. =)
I disagree. Only time that even makes a difference is if you're using
some specific gadget you can't pass through, or actually have some
specific hardware you need to test - granted, actual testing should
happen outside of VMs, but for much of userland stuff, it makes
absolutely no difference. Even sound passthrough works now :P
Jon.