On Tue, 2 Feb 2010, Juha Tuomala wrote:
> Out of curiosity is your point to be antagonistic or are you
actually trying
> to improve things?
If cleaning false assumptions and admitting that some areas are real
problems - is improving, that's what I'm doing.
You don't appear to be doing that. You seem to just be attempting the
'gadfly' method of helping matters. I'd like you to remember what
result that achieved for Socrates.
> If it is just the former then you are welcome to NOT be
involved.
And pulling out the welcomness from this particular identity is
actually the only thing that can be done - considering the context ;)
Just having an account doesn't mean you have access to anything or are
trusted. It only means you have an account. You have to maliciously want
to lie and do harm.
What I see is only possible way to do that is some kind of
sertificate thing that would require global network of trusted
fedora people (like already met in meetings) able to sign those
fedora contributor certificates after checking the id documents
first (against ban lists).
Those work only to limit access. And even then it just turns into a clique
or a cabal-driven exercise.
There are around 200 countries and some have quite long distances,
requiring to meet people face to face doesn't really sound very
feasible. Not being feasible doesn't remove the problem however.
No - but it makes you question your goals and priorities.
Our goals are openness and productivity. We do our due dilligence on
security and I think we
Easier would be to write red warning into wiki that "We
actually
don't know who took part of building fedora, so consider yourself
warned."
You mean like all open source/free software? Great. I'd like to invite you
again to not be involved if this is your belief about the whole system.
Or if you'd like to point out a linux distribution that doesn't have the
above problem, I'm all ears.
Didn't someone just crack berlios site to inject something into
projects? In fedora you don't even need to crack anything, you get
invited to commit.
And they didn't crack berlios by being involved and tricking their way in.
The cracked berlios b/c of poor system maintenance.
If the only way to make something safe is to shut it down entirely then
there's not much point in having it at all.
You should not cut off your nose to spite your face.
-sv