On Mon, 2012-05-14 at 11:49 -0700, John Reiser wrote:
On 05/12/2012 09:51 PM, Matthew Garrett wrote:
> On Thu, May 10, 2012 at 11:00:48AM -0400, Adam Jackson wrote:
>> So the set of people we'd be inconveniencing is exactly the set of
>> people with no bandwidth and the inability to boot from anything larger
>> than a CD.
> Not only that - the people who have no bandwidth, the inability to boot
> from anything larger than a CD and no USB ports that can be bootstrapped
> from a bootloader sitting on a CD or floppy.
> USB has been required by Microsoft's logo program since 1999 and was
> effectively ubiquitous on Pentium 2 before that, so the set of hardware
> we're ruling out is at least 13 years old and more realistically
> probably 15. We've already dropped support for x86 hardware that was in
> production more recently than that.
Reality can differ from the press releases. I have two running machines
that contradict the conclusions above. Instead of 13 or 15 years,
such an effective cutoff would be closer to about 8 years. I consider
that to be uncomfortably young to be declared obsolete, especially
when the declaration is issued at the end of a release cycle instead of
at the beginning.
The most important issue in this thread is ability to boot from USB2.0.
No, it isn't. mjg59 wrote:
"the inability to boot from anything larger than a CD and no USB ports
that can be bootstrapped from a bootloader sitting on a CD or floppy."
So you're talking past each other. You are assuming that direct boot
from USB is the minimum. Matthew reckons bootstrapping from a CD or
floppy is fine.
Fedora QA Community Monkey
IRC: adamw | Twitter: AdamW_Fedora | identi.ca: adamwfedora