On Tue, Nov 12, 2019 at 12:40 PM Stephen John Smoogen <smooge(a)gmail.com> wrote:
On Tue, 12 Nov 2019 at 12:26, Aleksandra Fedorova <alpha(a)bookwar.info> wrote:
> Again I fail to see the _technical_ difference between the ursine rpm
> package and a package which was built as a part of default stream. It
> is the same rpm spec from the same dist-git sources, which is built by
> the same rpmbuild command. Thus I think it is a process/policy
> difference, which we should resolve.
Do you view provides/requires/conflicts in an RPM spec and their
equivalent in modules to be technical or policy differences. If wrote
a policy which says I built X and X-devel but only want to ship X in
the module.. is that a policy difference or a technical one?
The technology allows you to do this. The policy can restrict this. Of
course, this particular example can be true of a non-modular RPM too;
you don't *have* to build the X-devel subpackage.
If the
policy says I can't even install a newer X/X-devel that I built with
NEVR because modules always win and it isn't a module.. is that a
technical difference or a policy one?
That would be a technical difference. Your statement, however, is not
entirely true. You can trivially override it by using RPM instead of
DNF to update it. Or you can run `createrepo_c` and then add
`module_hotfix = 1` to the repo file you add to DNF.
I can see where those are technical because it is built into the
technology of modules/dnf/etc and I can also see it as policy as the
'spec' file is more about setting up policies for a package needing
certain things and including/excluding other things.
[I am asking this because if we spend a lot of time arguing because
people think X is technical and others think it is policy.. the
argument will spiral for hundreds of messages about definitions that
people thought they agreed on and not about the change itself.]
Let's leave it at "technical differences are things where the inputs
and outputs of packaging differ" and "policy is what we as Fedora have
decided to allow, disallow or mandate".