* Rodd Clarkson <rodd(a)clarkson.id.au> [20090331 03:56]:
On Mon, 2009-03-30 at 10:55 +0530, Rahul Sundaram wrote:
[snip]
> I don't think it is appropriate content for release notes
since it isn't
> useful to lead users to read a few threads with hundreds of mails in
> that context. Fedora release notes is not Fedora Weekly News.
I'm not suggesting that you put all these threads into the release
notes, just a url so that hopefully people will read the discussion
already had (and then hopefully avoid having the same fruitless
convesation again).
You have an excessive amount of faith in people. This discussion will
be had again (and again), probably by mostly the same people, once
it's rolled out in a release. Same arguments, same flames, possibly a
different list.
I have read this thread with much merriment, seeing hilarious
accusations of conspiracy by closet Emacs users (as if Vim users would
be any better *grin*, tinfoil? first door on the left), shouting from
the roof-tops by a real minority (albeit vocal such) etc etc ad
nauseum as well as more and more far-fetched and ludicrous analogies
being put forth. (I did laugh at the shatterproof glass one..)
I don't think this is necessarily a good poster-child discussion to
stick in the release-notes without a healthy dose of soap+water to
clean it up first. "We resist change" somehow don't seem to quite
match the Fedora that I've come to know.
C-A-Bs is a known key combination, it may occasionaly help in a sticky
situation (not getting covered in syrup in the first place would help
too) but it may also cause people to lose a session and unsaved
work. SysRq's are disabled by default for good reason, and so should
C-A-Bs be, where savvy admins that need the functionality ought to be
capable of enabling it *should the need arise*. (They do *test* things
before they roll them out company wide, right?)
Personally, I've seen some interesting technical bits in this thread,
that you now - thanks to the autoconfiguration of X - can drop in
snippets of xorg.conf (can sysadmins spell "puppet" please?) to
enable/disable very selected bits. It's also a long long time since I
personally had to use C-A-Bs out of anything but lazyness. A wedged X
usually means either a flip to a vc (Thunar in F10 updates-testing
seems to do this recently, and no, I've not filed a BZ - yet) to nuke
the offending process or a hard reboot since keyboard interrupt left
the building.
Right.. I'm late for work and I'll get off my soapbox now.
--
/Anders