Am 26.02.2015 um 16:37 schrieb Jóhann B. Guðmundsson:
On 02/26/2015 02:10 PM, Reindl Harald wrote:
> really?
> why?
> how do you come to that weird conclusion?
>
> surely, one can say "not my package, not my problem" but that's
> ignorant and needs no guidelines and policies - sanity should be enough
I guess you did not grasp I was referring to the ownership model of
components in the distribution which are irrelevant to guidelines and
policy's
i did
The fact is the distribution has been using the ownership model
since
it's interception which means one to one mapping from a component to an
individual.
As such the thought process of "I take care of what I own has" been
breed into maintainers for the past ten years.
and i doubt that this is true in general
every maintainer with responsiblity is or should be aware that his piece
is *part of a distribution* because otherwise he could just build his
package outside for his own
There have been several cases where the community has explode due to
"lack of communications" as an result of that with the most notorious of
those being the Gnome half of the Red Hat's desktop team where more
often than not they have broken bits for other *DE's that have been
sharing underlying components in the distribution. ( search this lists
archives if you need proof of that )
and without the "ownership model" it would have been prevented
what model would you use?
you can't only say "that model is wrong" without any alternative
having everybody mangle every package is also not a solution because you
can't expect the needed knowledge for mangle around in a perl package
from a java-user and so on
On top of that there are around 15k components in the distribution
and
expecting all maintainers to be able to keep tabs on all packager
relations ( to their own or in general ) is ignant or expect them to
does so for a single fedora-release rpm after the distribution has been
split up again into core ( products ) and extra ( the inferior rest )
where the inevitale outcome is for those products eventually start
shipping their own fedora release package...
If the PLL had thought though these thing thoroughly through he would
have realized that.
that's a completly different topic