2008/4/24 Toshio Kuratomi <a.badger(a)gmail.com>:
max bianco wrote:
> On Wed, Apr 23, 2008 at 8:57 PM, Thomas M Steenholdt <tmus(a)tmus.dk> wrote:
>
> > Hans de Goede wrote:
> >
> >
> > > Tom "spot" Callaway wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > > I propose that we add /sbin and /usr/sbin to the path for normal
users
> > > > (as well as root) for F10? There are plenty of useful tools in there
for
> > > > non-root users (ifconfig, fdisk, parted), and IMHO, any tool which
> > > > assumes the user is root because it lives in /sbin is fundamentally
> > > > broken. The LSB doesn't mandate this (at least, not anywhere I
can
see),
> > > > so I propose that we just do it.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Anyone opposed to such an action?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > Not at all,
> > >
> > > +1000000
> > >
> > > I've been consistenly changing /etc/profile todo exactly this since
the
> > >
> > day I started using RH 4.0
> >
> > > Regards,
> > >
> > > Hans
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > Isn't that more or less the same reason most windows users login as
> > administrator - The convenience?
> >
> > Note: I know the security risk in the two examples are not in the same
> > ball-park, so there's no need to lecture me on that.
> >
> > I'm merely speaking of convenience and how it sometimes makes it feel
right
> > to do the wrong thing.
> >
> >
> Speaking as probably one of the most inexperienced Fedora users
> subscribing to this list. I whole-heartedly agree with this sentiment.
> Its already been said but I will say it again anyway. Those that know
> how to add things to their $PATH will do just that and not be
> inconvenienced.
>
Actually, this is not true. I added it to my PATH for years since starting
on RHL-4. But at some point in using Fedora, I stopped because I gave up
on the hassle of adding a custom PATH to /etc/profile.d/ every time I
installed a new box. Additionally, I now have more shell accounts on boxes
that I only drop into once in a while when something's wrong that I've
learned to accept the constant annoyance of not having .*/sbin in my PATH.
> If you don't know how to find ifconfig and add it to
> your $PATH then you probably would just shoot yourself in the foot
> with it, if you don't know but are motivated you can certainly find
> this info easily enough. Our time on this earth is limited but its
> not that limited.
>
Actually, it is. Every day, lose six minutes from having to retype a sudo
line due to not having a PATH configured with sbin. Most likely when you're
already stressed that something is broken and you just want to find out what
as quickly as possible.
But you are a poweruser and can make the adjustments to your profile
so you don't have to retype it everytime. I am talking about people
who have no idea what mount,fdisk, or ifconfig are for...
Max