On Sat, Nov 15, 2014 at 5:41 PM, Johannes Lips <johannes.lips(a)gmail.com>
On Sat, Nov 15, 2014 at 6:56 PM, Christopher <ctubbsii-fedora(a)apache.org>
> On Sat, Nov 15, 2014 at 9:34 AM, Rejy M Cyriac <rcyriac(a)redhat.com>
>> On 11/15/2014 07:43 PM, Reindl Harald wrote:
>> > Am 15.11.2014 um 15:06 schrieb Kevin Kofler:
>> >> Lars Seipel wrote:
>> >>> What does the community think of it? Is it okay for our flagship
>> >>> applications to carry ads and report tracking data?
>> >> No!
>> >> IMHO, we should consider dropping Firefox from Fedora entirely, in
>> >> favor of
>> >> Epiphany for Workstation and Midori for the Spins (except the KDE Spin
>> >> which
>> >> already ships Konqueror as the browser)
>> > NO!
>> > * i don't see that crap at all
>> > * even if i could disable it (or maybe have it in about:config)
>> > * i want to use Firefox for thousand reasons
>> > it's *not* freedom to remove Firefox
>> > freedom would be make it not default but still offer it
>> Disabling the ADs feature from firefox, if that is possible, would be
>> the right move for Fedora.
>> We also could lobby mozilla to re-consider this decision.
> I don't really understand the issue at all. We also don't have any
problems offering google or any other search engine with our default
configuration in firefox. But if a truly open-source foundation implements
something to generate some revenue, which will most probably help the
development of open source software, it suddenly becomes a big deal?
I think the main difference is that it collects personal data and gives
that information to for-profit companies, as a default configuration,
without a user first "opting in" to that sort of data sharing. It is
supposedly sanitized of user-identifying information, but a user should be
given the option of deciding whether that sanitization is sufficient for
them. Yes, Mozilla is "open source", but that's not the same as "free
software" in every sense of the word, and people are wanting more from
their free software, such as better control over their personal data, and
the idea of privacy is working its way into some definitions of "free".
I don't necessarily see any reason to lobby Mozilla to change their
decision... I think it's fine for them to do what they are doing. They
might be welcome to a suggestion to include an installer/download option to
give their direct download users some better controls over this feature (if
they haven't done so already). But for Fedora, I think it makes sense to
disable it by default, and if that is done, I don't see any issue. If
Mozilla had a "first use" setup option to control this feature, then I
would even say that it's not needed for Fedora to even bother doing
anything. So, maybe that's something that could be brought up with Mozilla
(if it doesn't already exist).
>> Rejy M Cyriac (rmc)
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