On Thu, 2009-06-04 at 14:16 +0200, Till Maas wrote:
> 3. Did you encounter any obstacles preventing participation in
Fedora
> test Days? How might they have been avoided? Did you discover any
> workaround?
The live iso images failed to be converted to live usb media on F10 with a
strange looking boot menu. It could have beend avoided with testing this
before starting the test day.
This sounds like the somewhat-infamous problem with f10's USB creator
not working for F11 images. Later in the F11 cycle, we did have that
issue neatly identified and pinned down, and we started adding a box out
to test days explaining it. See the nouveau page, for e.g.:
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Day:2009-03-26_Nouveau#Live_Image
note the blue box. The explanation could have been a bit more
descriptive and emphatic, though, I suppose.
> 4. Were you able to locate and download installation media for
testing?
> Did it function as expected?
Yes. No, see 3. Also I would have expected testing instructions on the live
media to perform the tests without the need to setup an internet connection on
the testing machine.
That's a good point - in some situations it's hard to get an internet
connection on a live image. So we should try as hard as we can to
include all necessary material on the image itself.
Also some bug report info gathering scripts would have
been nice, that e.g. collect all the data required by the packages maintainers
for a bug report in some file on the usb medium. E.g. the Xorg people wanted a
lot of information that I did not have anymore after I rebooted to my stable
F10 system and reported the bug. Also when the test crashes the Xserver, it is
very annoying to get to the log files, because they are deleted after a
reboot.
This one's a bit tricky - on the one hand it'd be nice, on the other
it'd be a substantial development effort for each test day and they
already take quite a lot of effort to organize. Perhaps, however, we
could come up with a general-purpose script which could be used for X
test days, as the procedures tend to be very similar for different
drivers and different releases. We'll certainly look into that for the X
test days for F12.
Thanks for your feedback!
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