On Tue, Mar 2, 2010 at 6:52 PM, Kevin Kofler <kevin.kofler(a)chello.at> wrote:
Jesse Keating wrote:
> If you don't like rawhide for that use case, find another operating
> system.
Such as? We're filling a niche, this is one of our unique selling points,
you want to throw out the baby with the bathwater!
> I'm tired of waiting for many many hours while we try to compose out the
> 3444 individual updates in F11 stable.
The fact that it takes hours is really a failure of our mash process. Extras
managed to deal with this in a much more efficient way: they pushed only the
new stuff and then had scripts to clean out the old stuff (and a process to
request manual deletion if old stuff was not being cleaned out for some
reason). How much old stuff was in the repo was mostly irrelevant for the
time a push took.
Extras worked also because it had a lot less to deal with. Comparing
Extras to what is currently in the build process is like comparing the
build time for RHL6.2 to RHEL-5. Too many things have changed to say
any one thing is the problem or is the fix. In the end we have a lot
more hardware doing builds but a LOT more packages. Package sizes have
gone up and we are keeping debuginfo data when it was not as much a
factor back then. We are also dealing with deltarpms which we weren't
before.
However this conversation is not about facts.. its about emotions,
discontent, and calls for revolution.
--
Stephen J Smoogen.
Ah, but a man's reach should exceed his grasp. Or what's a heaven for?
-- Robert Browning