On Wed, Apr 27, 2022 at 9:08 PM Demi Marie Obenour
<demiobenour(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>
> On 4/27/22 07:40, Ewoud Kohl van Wijngaarden wrote:
>> On Tue, Apr 26, 2022 at 09:03:45PM -0500, Carl George wrote:
>>> On Tue, Apr 26, 2022 at 1:25 PM Ewoud Kohl van Wijngaarden
>>> <ewoud+fedora(a)kohlvanwijngaarden.nl> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Hello everyone,
>>>>
>>>> There is an ancient version of Puppet in EPEL-7. Version 3.6 has been
>>>> EOL for ages now.
https://binford2k.com/2016/11/22/puppet-3.x-eol/ has a
>>>> nice EOL overview:
>>>>
>>>> * Puppet 3 - 2016-12-31
>>>> * Puppet 4 - 2018-10-??
>>>> * Puppet 5 - 2021-02-??
>>>>
>>>> Puppet 6 requires a newer Ruby version than is available in EL7 so
>>>> rebasing the whole stack is not going to work. In theory you could use
>>>> SCLs but I think it's unrealistic to expect that.
>>>>
>>>> However, all bugs open for Puppet relate to EPEL-7[1] so I'm
wondering
>>>> what to do.
>>>>
>>>> We can close all bugs as WONTFIX (including the security ones), but
>>>> would it be better to also remove the package from EPEL-7?
>>>>
>>>> Regards,
>>>> Ewoud Kohl van Wijngaarden
>>>>
>>>> [1]:
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/buglist.cgi?bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASS...
>>>
>>> Retiring epel7's puppet may be the preferred option. It is allowed
>>> [0], but if you go this route please mention it on the epel-devel list
>>> (and perhaps epel-announce) first.
>>
>> I should have realized this, will bring it up there.
>>
>>> Alternatively, have you considered doing an incompatible update [1] to
>>> version 5? It may already be EOL, but surely that's a better option
>>> than the current version 3 or removing it entirely.
>>
>> The Ruby version in EL7 is simply too old. In theory you could write a
>> ton of patches to make it compatible again, but the Puppet modules users
>> have may be assuming Ruby 2.4+ with Puppet 5. Also note that Puppet 5
>> itself is already EOL (for more than a year), but packaging Puppet 6 vs
>> Puppet 5 (or really, Puppet 7 as well) isn't a big difference: you need
>> a newer Ruby. After that it's all minor differences.
>>
>>> [0]
https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/package-maintainers/Package_Retireme...
>>> [1]
https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/epel/epel-policy-incompatible-upgrades/
>
> Bundle a newer Ruby?
RHEL 7 has published "software collection library" versions of ruby,
titled "rh-ruby25".
As somebody who's backported bulky software for RHEL based operating
systems, like Samba and current ansible and airflow and yes, years
ago, puppet, I don't recommend installing your own ruby. Resolving the
dependencies gets painful, fast.
In that case, I would be fine with saying, “if you need to run Puppet
on RHEL 7, do so in a container or VM based on a newer RHEL”.
--
Sincerely,
Demi Marie Obenour (she/her/hers)