On 03/03/2010 07:03 PM, James Antill wrote:
On Wed, 2010-03-03 at 18:06 +0100, Ralf Corsepius wrote:
> On 03/03/2010 05:10 PM, Seth Vidal wrote:
>>
>>
>> On Wed, 3 Mar 2010, Peter Lemenkov wrote:
>>> And what about tickets, closed with "FIXED UPSTREAM" w/o actually
>>> applying fix to a package?
>>>
>>
>> Those items will be released in the next release of yum or in the next
>> fedora release. If the bug is serious or a security issue I will often
>> backport a patch.
>
> QED: You don't fix your bugs, but prefer confronting users with them and
> force them to dig out your "fixes" to work-around the issues they are
> facing.
No, we don't fix _all_ bugs immediately, so as to not introduce
unnecessary regressions.
Seth doesn't fix bugs even when they are apparent and
when there is no
risk at all.
This is the engineering part of "software
engineering". And, yes, users can often personally work around their
problems by installing from rawhide/etc. ... without adding risk to
anyone else.
Read: You guys are being rude against the community.
Some bug reporters have argued that their bug is more critical than
we
think, some do change our minds, that's fine and I'm happy to discuss it
with them. But your desire that we should instantly rebase for all bugs,
immediately, and no matter the risk is something you will have to live
without.
I am not talking about "upgrading to a next" release. I am
talking about
you to fix bugs. If you can't do so, then there's something wrong with
your development workflow.
Again, rawhide is => that way. Have fun.
Wrong, you to
finally fix the bugs your packages is nagging the users of
a "so-called stable Fedora" release. In other words: It's you who is
contributing to the malfunctions Fedora is suffering from.