On 03/11/2013 04:56 PM, Lennart Poettering wrote:
On Mon, 11.03.13 21:40, Björn Persson (bjorn(a)xn--rombobjrn-67a.se) wrote:
> Lennart Poettering wrote:
>>> If some text like "Press Esc now to choose which operating system to
>>> boot." would be displayed, then the pause would need to be long enough
>>> for the user to read and understand the instruction and then reach for
>>> the right key – and the terser the text is made the harder it will be to
>>> understand. I estimate that at least 15 seconds would be needed. Adding
>>> "Press Enter to save a few seconds." would make it even more text
to
>>> read and understand.
>> Yikes. On a modern system the BIOS POST finishes within 500ms, and
>> kernel+userspace in 2s. And you want us to spend 15s for nothing in the
>> boot loader, for a feature only the fewest people need, and those who
>> need anyway know how to get?
> No, those 15 seconds were my argument for why it should NOT be done
> that way. As I already wrote, if the Grub menu is simply displayed,
> then five seconds is enough. Much better. And if you want to save those
> five seconds you just need to press Enter.
No, 0s are about enough. Press some key while boot up your machine,
that's fine.
So just to clarify, just have a key (or keys) that need to be *held
down* when you turn on your machine, that brings up GRUB? This is a
great approach!
--ryanlerch
(And on EFI systems that do not initialize USB anymore during POST, you
have to go through the OS to get into the boot loader anyway...)
Lennart