On Sun, Apr 3, 2011 at 10:49 AM, Greg Swift
<gregswift(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> On Sun, Apr 3, 2011 at 10:06, James Cammarata <jimi(a)sngx.net> wrote:
>>
>> On Sun, Apr 3, 2011 at 9:16 AM, James Cammarata <jimi(a)sngx.net> wrote:
>> >>> I thought about moving
>> >>> it to a three column format, with the pagination/filter stuff on
the
>> >>> right, but I didn't like it much better. I do think some of the
>> >>> actions might be ok for the right, but the filter stuff really
should
>> >>> be at the top. I'm also considering moving the page controls to
the
>> >>> bottom under the list.
>> >>
>> >> I don't think three column is right for this. There does need to
be
>> >> some separation between the actions and the pagination. I don't
have
>> >> strong feelings about whether filters should go with actions or
>> >> pagination. I prefer the filters on the top, so I think if you move
>> >> pagination to the bottom, which seems a reasonable idea, filters should
>> >> stay with actions.
>> >
>> > Yeah, the more I look at it, the more I think the pagination stuff
>> > should be at the bottom.
>> >
>>
>> The other thought I had was the "actions" column should be nixed and
>> moved up into the new "actions" combo box. I'm debating that
though,
>> because the user would have to select one object and then select the
>> action from the drop-down box... not sure if I like that. It would
>> allow us to display more info about each object in the table though.
>>
>
> James,
>
> so.. we discussed some page re-designs a while ago in passing, and I
> agree,the filter and pagination belongs on top, with pagination also at the
> bottom... the only problem I'm seeing with that is that its extremely
> cluttered.
> which is unfortunate. since our previous conversation i've been meaning to
> play with this and so I did this morning. I tried a few things:
>
> 1: Combined all actions under a single menu, with <optgroup> separations.
> You can only really perform one action at a time, and all actions have a
> confirmation result of sorts, so it made sense to me. The page specific
> optgroups would of course be dynamic, and on initial entry would only have
> the global actions.
>
> 2: Make batch and global actions separate drop downs, with the single action
> entry as a its own button. I know the profiles page has 2 entries... and so
> you could do two buttons there, but part of me wonders if that functionality
> should be performed at the form level rather than as an option.
>
> 3: tried filters on top or bottom... i think i like the bottom better
>
> 4: made per item actions look like buttons (I think it looks better, but
> cross-browser would require more testing than I did)
>
> 5: removed link underlines, and replaced it with color change on hover,
> using the color of the fieldset legends.
>
> 6: put pagination on top and bottom (when you've got 100 entries displayed
> its nice to not have to scroll all the way back up or down to change pages)
>
> 7: moved the online web chat to a separate "menu", and added the cobbler
> page and user documentation links. It didn't feel like action or
> configuration to me, and I know i've occasionally clicked on the web chat
> absent mindedly when what I really wanted was the documentation, or on the
> cobbler logo wanting to goto the cobber web page.
>
> The screen shots can be seen here:
http://nytefyre.net/images/cobbler.htm
>
> also... if we could get the logo to stop injecting ~80px of wasted space on
> the right that would be awesome.. i played with it for a few seconds and it
> didn't go away. I think it would be kewl if it could be dropped into the
> bottom left of the page where there is almost always empty space, but the
> way the colums flow i'm not sure how doable that is.
I've actually been meaning to dig back through our emails, but I just
kind of started hacking on things to see how it went :)
I'm letting these soak in - not sure if I like the consolidated menu
idea yet or not, but overall I think your designs are an improvement.
I like the filter box up top, but when there are a bunch of filters I
like it less - I ran into the same thing playing with my designs.
This is probably my favorite:
http://nytefyre.net/images/unconsolidated-actions-with-filters-on-bottom.png
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