On 27 January 2013 15:40, Christoph Wickert christoph.wickert@gmail.com wrote:
Second we need to get the owners of the spins take responsibility of them and keep them up to date. Sending stuff off 6 releases ago that no-one checks out just says that spins are where that data goes off to die.
Yes and no. The Design Suite for example shouldn't have been published as it was unmaintained. Luya took over maintainership after the release, so we cannot blame him.
Oh I don't blame him. I just think that we spend too much of our time in Fedora doing a lot of Heroic saves where it might be better to kill it off. We have too many people seeing a package, spin, etc being abandoned and then stepping in and taking it without really looking at "Does this really need to be kept?" I think Spins especially can NOT rely on one person per release but each needs a team of people in charge of it. And if a SIG or group doesn't want to do that.. why do we keep it?
On the other hand I feel we apply double standards. Have a look at the Desktop live media. The desktop team only changes the package selection or some configuration here and there, but if something is really (about to be) broken, it's usually fixed by someone from rel-eng. The desktop team hardly does any testing by themselves, instead QA does a lot.
I feel this is kind of unfair. Given how little attention the spins get and the limited resources we have, it's not surprisingsome of them are not in good shape.
OH I am in perfect agreement here. I would put any and all Spins on the proverbial chopping block if they aren't being backed by a team of people who are actually fixing things versus leaving them to be fixed by others.
Kind regards, Christoph
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