Thanks for the input. Contact the list administrator if you would like
to see address encryption turned on for Gmane to safeguard against that.
Thanks,
William
Joe Desbonnet wrote:
I noticed that my spam levels (the stuff that got through the gmail
filter) shot up within days of my first post to the fedora developers
list. Coincidence? I suspect not.
Joe.
On 4/13/05, William M. Quarles <walrus(a)bellsouth.net> wrote:
>Hi all,
>
>I sent what I thought was a very important request to one of the Fedora
>lists which was quickly beaten down, and I did not receive anything back
>on subsequent replies. I would appreciate your help in making sure that
>the lists are safe for all of us. I'm actually going to the trouble of
>subscribing to nearly all of the Red Hat mailing lists just to get the
>word out.
>
>One thing that I have done recently was to search for my e-mail
>addresses on the Internet web pages to find all of the places that list
>them. Why bother doing this? Just like how Google has spiders that
>crawl the Internet to gather general information, spammers have spiders
>that crawl the Internet to gather e-mail addresses to spam people. I
>have contacted all of the websites who did not modify my e-mail
>addresses (mostly on mailing lists) in such that they cannot be
>collected. Red Hat has done at least one thing right in that they have
>modified everyone's e-mail address in their web archive, such that it
>reads something like <walrus bellsouth.net> for mine.
>
>However Red Hat has left one big gaping whole that the spam spiders can
>still crawl into. There is a complete active mirror of these lists as
>postable newsgroups kept on a service called Gmane <
http://gmane.org>.
>I'm using Gmane to write this message to you now. It's a pretty
>sophisticated setup, has safeguards to prevent spam getting posted, and
>they use Spam Assassin to clean up stuff that still ends up on the list
>(except you have to filter it yourself on the newsgroup interface). The
>only problem is that spam spiders crawl the newsgroups to collect e-mail
>addresses.
>
>Gmane has a safeguard to prevent this, but it has to be turned on by the
>list administrator. Gmane can encrypt the e-mail addresses on the list
>such that any mail sent to them is routed through Gmane first, and then
>the sender must under go a challenge-response before the message gets
>routed to the actual recipient. Of all of the Red Hat lists I've only
>found two newsgroup mirrors that use address encryption:
>gmane.linux.redhat.fedora.java <fedora-java-list>, and
>gmane.redhat.taroon <taroon-beta-list>.
>
>If you would like to see the Red Hat newsgroup mirrors have encrypted
>e-mail addresses, please reply to this topic and discuss. If you are
>even more brave (important since some of these lists are high-volume and
>not everything gets read), please contact your list administrator
>directly at <listname-admin(a)redhat.com>. If someone knows how to get
>the word out on the international lists or to their administrators
>(since I don't speak multiple tongues), please do so. If someone knows
>who to contact who can make all of the newsgroups have encrypted e-mail
>addresses going above all of the list administrators (maybe the person
>who decided to obfuscate them all on the web archive?) please contact
>him or her and let us know how to contact that person.
>
>Thanks so much,
>William
>
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