Once upon a time, Michael A. Peters <mpeters(a)mac.com> said:
On Wed, 2006-05-17 at 22:48 +0200, Jochen Wiedmann wrote:
> any comments on
> I understand this as an indicator, that the Sun JDK and JRE should now
> be distributable via Fedora Core or Extras? If so, I would very much
> like to see this.
This pretty much kills it:
2c. ``you do not combine, configure or distribute the Software to run in
conjunction with any additional software that implements the same or
similar functionality or APIs as the Software''
The DLJ FAQ also has these interesting statements:
- Distribute the entire JDK - no subsetting. Note - the README file
has the specifics of what you must distribute, and what can be
Fedora couldn't split it up into sub-packages unless they all depended
on each other (all or nothing).
- Use the JDK only to design, develop, test, and run Java programs on
your OS - you may not use it or parts of it for other purposes.
"your OS" - can I install Fedora with a JDK and develop Java programs
- Present for acceptance any end user licenses that are part of the
JDK, if such licenses are included in the generic install bundle
provided to you for repackaging.
Click-through license required - not acceptable, especially during
install (how would an automated kickstart even do this?).
- Indemnify Sun against claims arising from your OS or your violation
of the DLJ (or any applicable law) Note that you are not responsible
for changes made to your OS distribution by downstream users or
distributors when such changes are out of your control.
I don't think Fedora is going to indemnify anyone.
- Ship only a compatible JDK on your OS. If notified of an
incompatibility, you must correct it and offer a patch or
replacement to downstream recipients within 90 days, or stop
shipment and notify downstream recipients.
If Sun notifies Fedora of an incompatibility in a release after that
release is end-of-life, Fedora still has to release an update or
withdraw Java for that release (since Fedora Legacy is currently run by
others it may not qualify).
Looking on the JPackage list, they are not interested in it either -
seem to be quite surprised at the Sun claim that they were "working with
JPackage" in their FAQ. The word "lie" seemed to come up more than once.
The only reference to jpackage I see is "We are looking forward to
collaborating with jpackage.org
...". I don't see anything that says
they already were working with them.
This is all aside from the fact that Fedora is about Open Source
software (which Sun's JDK/JRE are still not). Even if that changed, the
above problems would appear to make it impossible to include it in
Chris Adams <cmadams(a)hiwaay.net>
Systems and Network Administrator - HiWAAY Internet Services
I don't speak for anybody but myself - that's enough trouble.