On Mon, 6 Jul 2009 16:25:08 +0100, Christopher Brown snecklifter@gmail.com wrote:
2009/7/6 Jeroen van Meeuwen kanarip@kanarip.com:
On Sun, 5 Jul 2009 22:13:07 +0100, Christopher Brown snecklifter@gmail.com wrote:
Honestly, I'm impressed by your persistence but I think simply trying to re-instate Fedora Legacy (which it sounds like this is what you are trying to do) is doomed to permanent failure.
I love your argumentation behind this statement;
Why do you think it's doomed exactly? Is it reasoning following the past Fedora Legacy initiatives (and failure), or is there anything new?
That plus the fact that you have Red Hat, the major backers of Fedora, producing a distribution that is geared towards long term support for their clients. Hence any initiative to increase the length of time Fedora is supported will not (I believe) receive anything more than lip service from RH. I completely understand that and it makes financial sense.
"lip service" doesn't translate very well but I think I got the clue;
If you're saying that Red Hat would choose to not support this initiative for whatever their reasons, may be, then so be it. I can't control what they do and I wouldn't want to. I can control however what I do with or without Red Hat's blessing.
I was simply trying to identify what the requirements are for LTS on Fedora. I think simply saying "Fedora needs LTS" is doomed as the past has proved. "Those that forget the past are doomed to repeat it." - George Santayana
I'm too eager to respond with similar phrases as put onto the Feature wiki page; if the difference between the long term support model for RHEL and an extended life cycle model for Fedora isn't clear enough, then how can I explain the added value of a commercial company backing it's product, stable API/ABI offerings, hardware and software certifications, a phone number, the differences between 7 years or 19 months, desktop environments vs. enterprise solutions, prolonged availability of security updates (only!) vs. prolonged application support (including security updates), and the difference between 19 months and 3 years?
The sooner Fedora gets out of its identity crisis the better.
I wholeheartedly agree, but it's a completely different discussion.
Kind regards,
Jeroen van Meeuwen -kanarip