Jaroslav Reznik (jreznik@redhat.com) said:
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FWIW I agree with the general trend of discussion so far: let's find things to drop that don't really need to be on the DVD so we can keep MATE and Cinnamon. You can install those from live images or from repos of course, just like anything else, but they are things it makes a deal of sense to provide for offline users - probably more so than many of the candidates for removal so far - and there is a substantial PR benefit to including them.
It's good PR to have Mate and Cinnamon, another question is - with Gnome Classic session - wouldn't be better to point our users to it now?
But I tend to agree with trend - aim on users with DVDs, developers are usually able to bring stuff for theirs development needs (and there are much more options to select the right set than desktops). So count me +1 to remove it.
Hm, I've always thought of it differently - if we're trying to provide good value in the DVD media as a demonstration of all the things you can do with Fedora, isn't there more value in a development workstation, or a design suite, or a web application stach, or other dissimilar things rather than the marginal added value of a 4th (or 5th, or 6th, or 7th) desktop?
This is also why I've always found the multi-desktop DVD to be a strange thing to hand out, unless we're trying to tell people that Fedora is best for picking between one of 7 desktops and not other things.
Bill