Fedora Rel-Eng Meeting Recap 2008-04-21
by John Poelstra
Recap and full IRC transcript found here:
http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/ReleaseEngineering/Meetings/2008-apr-21
Please make corrections and clarifications to the wiki page.
== Preview Release ==
* PR was made available via torrents on Friday
* Attempting to sync release trees to master mirrors so that we can
offer direct (and jigdo) downloads
* upload is mostly done--waiting for snapmirror to sync up the
various RH netapps
* after sync is complete will flip a bit and let the mirrors get it
== CVS Branching ==
* 36+ hours of outage for branching
* cannot do this again--must to figure out a way to do this without an
outage
* the second batch of cvs branches is about 50% of the way through
which started 11~ hours ago
* part of the delay is the pkgdb updates--a different SCM wouldn't
necessarily fix the problem
== Release Candidate ==
1. They're real RCs, as in "we think we fixed all we're going to take,
so now we're going to do the composes that, if they turn out right, are
what we ship"
* not "hey that RC passed, now go compose the final"
1. RC will not be a public release
* lead time to get bits moved around just takes too long for it to
be really worth it
1. Everyone can do composes leading up to RC for testing various fixes
1. Using pungi people outside of Red Hat can create their own RC using
rawhide
== Tagging SOP ==
* need writeup on Release Engineering process and steps to tag
packages at freeze
* add something to
http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/ReleaseEngineering/SOP/FreezingRawhide
== IRC Transcript ==
16 years
rawhide report: 20080423 changes
by Fedora compose checker
Updated Packages:
fedora-release-9-0.1.rc
-----------------------
* Tue Apr 22 2008 Jesse Keating <jkeating(a)redhat.com> - 9-0.1.rc
- Make version 9 for yum, rpm version clearly a pre-release.
gnome-panel-2.22.1.2-4.fc9
--------------------------
* Fri Apr 18 2008 Matthias Clasen <mclasen(a)redhat.com> - 2.22.1.2-4
- Use gio to open places
- Fix a 64bit issue with timezone handling in the clock
gnome-settings-daemon-2.22.1-0.2008.03.26.6.fc9
-----------------------------------------------
* Tue Apr 22 2008 Matthias Clasen <mclasen(a)redhat.com> - 2.22.1-2008.03.26.6
- Make the xrandr plugin survive the absence of Xrandr
libwiimote-0.4-6.fc9
--------------------
* Tue Apr 22 2008 Adam Jackson <ajax(a)redhat.com> 0.4-6
- libwiimote-0.4-libs.patch: Link against libbluetooth. (#442212)
libxcb-1.1-4.fc9
----------------
* Tue Apr 22 2008 Adam Jackson <ajax(a)redhat.com> 1.1-4
- libxcb-1.1-sloppy-lock.patch: Turn sloppy locking on all the time. I'm
tired of fighting it. (#390261)
linuxwacom-0.7.9.8-6.fc9
------------------------
* Tue Apr 22 2008 Adam Jackson <ajax(a)redhat.com> 0.7.9.8-6
- linuxwacom-0.7.9.8-cleanup.patch: Don't crash at exit. (#443201)
ltspfs-0.5.1-1.fc9
------------------
* Mon Apr 21 2008 Warren Togami <wtogami(a)redhat.com> - 0.5.1-1
- lbmount must be setuid
- ltspfsd requires xorg-x11-utils in the client chroot
mock-0.9.9-1.fc9
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* Tue Apr 22 2008 Jesse Keating <jkeating(a)redhat.com> - 0.9.9-1
- Update config files for Fedora 9
- Comment out multilib excludes, no longer needed in F9+ with yum multilib changes
ntfs-3g-2:1.2412-1.fc9
----------------------
* Tue Apr 22 2008 Tom "spot" Callaway <tcallawa(a)redhat.com> - 2:1.2412-1
- update to 1.2412
perl-Socket6-0.20-1.fc9
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* Tue Apr 22 2008 Robert Scheck <robert(a)fedoraproject.org> - 0.20-1
- Upgrade to 0.20 (#443497)
phpMyAdmin-2.11.5.2-1.fc9
-------------------------
* Tue Apr 22 2008 Robert Scheck <robert(a)fedoraproject.org> 2.11.5.2-1
- Upstream released 2.11.5.2 (#443683)
xfce4-session-4.4.2-3.fc9
-------------------------
* Tue Apr 22 2008 Kevin Fenzi <kevin(a)tummy.com> - 4.4.2-3
- Disable tips by default for now.
xorg-x11-server-1.4.99.901-23.20080415.fc9
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* Tue Apr 22 2008 Adam Jackson <ajax(a)redhat.com> 1.4.99.901-23.20080415
- xserver-1.5.0-stenciled-visuals.patch: Prefer visuals with a stencil
buffer for the default GLX visual. (Hans de Goede, #442510)
Broken deps for i386
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kazehakase-0.5.0-1.fc9.2.i386 requires gecko-libs = 0:1.8.1.10
Broken deps for x86_64
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kazehakase-0.5.0-1.fc9.2.x86_64 requires gecko-libs = 0:1.8.1.10
Broken deps for ppc
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kazehakase-0.5.0-1.fc9.2.ppc requires gecko-libs = 0:1.8.1.10
Broken deps for ppc64
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kazehakase-0.5.0-1.fc9.2.ppc64 requires gecko-libs = 0:1.8.1.10
livecd-tools-015-1.fc9.ppc64 requires yaboot
perl-Test-AutoBuild-darcs-1.2.2-3.fc9.noarch requires darcs >= 0:1.0.0
ppc64-utils-0.14-2.fc9.ppc64 requires yaboot
16 years
RE: Adding /sbin and /usr/sbin to everyone's path in F10
by Shawn Starr
> -----Original Message-----
> From: fedora-devel-list-bounces(a)redhat.com
> [mailto:fedora-devel-list-bounces@redhat.com]On Behalf Of Shawn Starr
> Sent: Wednesday, April 23, 2008 1:14 PM
> To: Development discussions related to Fedora
> Subject: RE: Adding /sbin and /usr/sbin to everyone's path in F10
>
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > [mailto:fedora-devel-list-bounces@redhat.com]On Behalf Of
> Richard W.M.
> > Jones
> > Sent: Wednesday, April 23, 2008 11:58 AM
> > To: Development discussions related to Fedora
> > Subject: Re: Adding /sbin and /usr/sbin to everyone's path in F10
> >
> >
> > On Wed, Apr 23, 2008 at 11:30:31AM -0400, Tom spot Callaway wrote:
> > > I propose that we add /sbin and /usr/sbin to the path for
> > normal users
> > > (as well as root) for F10? There are plenty of useful tools
> > in there for
> > > non-root users (ifconfig, fdisk, parted), and IMHO, any tool which
> > > assumes the user is root because it lives in /sbin is
> fundamentally
> > > broken. The LSB doesn't mandate this (at least, not
> > anywhere I can see),
> > > so I propose that we just do it.
> > >
> > > Anyone opposed to such an action?
> >
> > FWIW, Debian doesn't have these in normal users' PATH, but
> does change
> > the PATH to include them when you do 'su'.
> >
> > On a Debian system:
> >
> > $ echo $PATH
> >
> /home/rich/bin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/bin:/bin:/usr/bin/X11:/usr/games
> > $ su
> > Password:
> > # echo $PATH
> >
> > /usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/sbin:/bin:/
> > usr/bin/X11
> >
> > I don't know how Debian does this, but it's extremely useful.
> >
> > Rich.
> >
> > --
> > Richard Jones, Emerging Technologies, Red Hat
>
> They use (this comes from /etc/login.defs)
>
> ENV_SUPATH
> PATH=/usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/sbin:/bin
> ENV_PATH PATH=/usr/local/bin:/usr/bin:/bin:/usr/games
>
> I am not sure though if the PAM modules also read login's
> /etc/login.defs file (it seems to be though they do)
>
> $ echo $PATH
> /usr/local/bin:/usr/bin:/bin:/usr/games
>
> $ su
> Password:
> # echo $PATH
> /usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/sbin:/bin
>
>
To reply to myself:
dpkg -S reveals /bin/su on Debian to be from the login package
Fedora's /bin/su comes from coreutils. So there is a difference, the latter of course being more modern. Though login's su lets you ctl+c a bad password without waiting for su to return a bad authentication message.
16 years
Fedora 9 Final Freeze
by Jesse Keating
We froze for Fedora 9 early this morning (the same time the rawhide
compose happened). This is our final freeze.
http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/ReleaseEngineering/FinalFreezePolicy
explains the policy.
We're planning a snapshot we'll call 'Preview Release' this Thursday or
Friday. Then release candidates will be created next week. If it
becomes obvious that we will have to slip the release date for getting
certain bugs fixed we will announce very loudly as soon as we make the
decision.
Mass CVS branching will come later this week so that folks can begin
work on F10.
PS: to see if your build is tagged for Fedora 9, check 'koji latest-pkg
f9-final <package>'
--
Jesse Keating
Fedora -- All my bits are free, are yours?
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16 years
RE: Adding /sbin and /usr/sbin to everyone's path in F10
by Shawn Starr
> -----Original Message-----
> [mailto:fedora-devel-list-bounces@redhat.com]On Behalf Of Richard W.M.
> Jones
> Sent: Wednesday, April 23, 2008 11:58 AM
> To: Development discussions related to Fedora
> Subject: Re: Adding /sbin and /usr/sbin to everyone's path in F10
>
>
> On Wed, Apr 23, 2008 at 11:30:31AM -0400, Tom spot Callaway wrote:
> > I propose that we add /sbin and /usr/sbin to the path for
> normal users
> > (as well as root) for F10? There are plenty of useful tools
> in there for
> > non-root users (ifconfig, fdisk, parted), and IMHO, any tool which
> > assumes the user is root because it lives in /sbin is fundamentally
> > broken. The LSB doesn't mandate this (at least, not
> anywhere I can see),
> > so I propose that we just do it.
> >
> > Anyone opposed to such an action?
>
> FWIW, Debian doesn't have these in normal users' PATH, but does change
> the PATH to include them when you do 'su'.
>
> On a Debian system:
>
> $ echo $PATH
> /home/rich/bin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/bin:/bin:/usr/bin/X11:/usr/games
> $ su
> Password:
> # echo $PATH
>
> /usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/sbin:/bin:/
> usr/bin/X11
>
> I don't know how Debian does this, but it's extremely useful.
>
> Rich.
>
> --
> Richard Jones, Emerging Technologies, Red Hat
They use (this comes from /etc/login.defs)
ENV_SUPATH PATH=/usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/sbin:/bin
ENV_PATH PATH=/usr/local/bin:/usr/bin:/bin:/usr/games
I am not sure though if the PAM modules also read login's /etc/login.defs file (it seems to be though they do)
$ echo $PATH
/usr/local/bin:/usr/bin:/bin:/usr/games
$ su
Password:
# echo $PATH
/usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/sbin:/bin
16 years
ethX activation at boot problem, primarily with laptops
by Ted Toth
We have a number of laptops where the network is not activated at boot
as specified by he configuration. We also saw this on a desktop box
and replaced the network card which resolved the issue. Are others
experiencing this problem and if so is there a solution/workaround?
16 years
Some experiences after installing/upgrading to F9 Beta
by Joachim Backes
Please let me report my experiences when installing the F9 Beta preview:
0. The disk naming scheme has been changed: in my F8 box, I have a SATA disk called /dev/sda
and an IDE disk called /dev/sdb; in F9, the names have been exchanged.
1. I copied my F8 (on my SATA disk) from /dev/sdb1 into partition /dev/sdb9, then upgraded F8
on /dev/sdb9.
But after the upgrade was performed, I saw that F8 on /dev/sdb1 had been upgraded and not that
F8 on /dev/sdb9, and all partitions were re-labelled with some UUIDs.
2. I copied the install iso to some partition and booted the installer with "askmethod".
When prompted, I choosed "install from local harddrive" instead of "local DVD", but the
installation still was done DVD based.
3. After booting the fresh installed F9, I waited for "firstboot", but the box hung,
and firstboot could not be seen (the boot was done into initmode 5).
As workaround i booted again in initmode 3, then the firstboot
was presented.
Regards
--
Joachim Backes <joachim.backes(a)rhrk.uni-kl.de>
University of Kaiserslautern,Computer Center [RHRK],
Systems and Operations, High Performance Computing,
D-67653 Kaiserslautern, PO Box 3049, Germany
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Phone: +49-631-205-2438, FAX: +49-631-205-3056
16 years