03-Dec-2003 fedora-devel-list-request@redhat.com:
From: M A Young m.a.young@durham.ac.uk The actually minimal install using the standard installer is about 510Mb, which you get by deselecting all the optional packages at the right point, though you need over 600Mb of diskspace to actually install this.
The absolute minimum presumably consists of a handful of key packages (such as kernel, glibc, initscripts) plus any dependent packages, which prbably comes to 2-300 Mb, though this may be too minimal to do anything with.
If I would like to create a firewall/gateway with RedHat/Fedora then I must install the 900MB. It is unnecessary! Many times the minimal install is necessary with this!
Bye! Gabor
Mako Gabor wrote:
03-Dec-2003 fedora-devel-list-request@redhat.com:
From: M A Young m.a.young@durham.ac.uk
The absolute minimum presumably consists of a handful of key packages (such as kernel, glibc, initscripts) plus any dependent packages, which prbably comes to 2-300 Mb, though this may be too minimal to do anything with.
If I would like to create a firewall/gateway with RedHat/Fedora then I must install the 900MB. It is unnecessary!
Doing the absolute minimal install suggested above should be fine for this. What exactly is your space requirement?
Tom
On Thu, 2003-12-04 at 09:13, Thomas Ryan Gordon Sr wrote:
Doing the absolute minimal install suggested above should be fine for this. What exactly is your space requirement?
Irrelevant question.
You have circa 700 MB of software that is _not_ needed for anything at all, only increases risk of exploiting and maintenance as updates come up.
The relevant questions are: Is so much software needed in a Minimal Installation? No Can Fedora Core do better? Certainly so. Should it? I think so.
I can help with that.
Rui
On Thu, 4 Dec 2003, Mako Gabor wrote:
03-Dec-2003 fedora-devel-list-request@redhat.com:
From: M A Young m.a.young@durham.ac.uk The actually minimal install using the standard installer is about 510Mb, which you get by deselecting all the optional packages at the right point, though you need over 600Mb of diskspace to actually install this.
The absolute minimum presumably consists of a handful of key packages (such as kernel, glibc, initscripts) plus any dependent packages, which prbably comes to 2-300 Mb, though this may be too minimal to do anything with.
If I would like to create a firewall/gateway with RedHat/Fedora then I must install the 900MB. It is unnecessary! Many times the minimal install is necessary with this!
FWIW I have a P90 box with 450MB disk running FC1 as a gw/firewall.. and diskspace isn't even tight (relatively speaking of course :) . though I must confess it was originally installed as RH7.2 IIRC and then over time upgraded with apt, later anacondas don't run since its got just 32MB memory.
- Panu -
Mako Gabor (makgab@freemail.hu) said:
If I would like to create a firewall/gateway with RedHat/Fedora then I must install the 900MB. It is unnecessary!
I could have sworn minimal was somewhere between 450 and 500MB. I'll have to re-check that.
Bill
On Thu, 4 Dec 2003, Bill Nottingham wrote:
Mako Gabor (makgab@freemail.hu) said:
If I would like to create a firewall/gateway with RedHat/Fedora then I must install the 900MB. It is unnecessary!
I could have sworn minimal was somewhere between 450 and 500MB. I'll have to re-check that.
It was the same for Red Hat 9, around 450. But then I was able to build up a fully functional machine with no X, but with gcc, perl, mc, vim, ... in just 170MB. Well, 256MB flashesh are quite common these days, so an installation around 200MB is a good thing to have. BTW, I think the best way to handle this is that people work on their own kickstart and when found a good configuration, send it in here for possible inclusion.
Bill
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On Thursday 04 December 2003 14:21, Bill Nottingham wrote:
Mako Gabor (makgab@freemail.hu) said:
If I would like to create a firewall/gateway with RedHat/Fedora then I must install the 900MB. It is unnecessary!
I could have sworn minimal was somewhere between 450 and 500MB. I'll have to re-check that.
Minimum is around 510MB although you need at least a 600MB to 650MB partition to actually do the install.
From time to time, a minimal install has pulled in some extra stuff (like
devel packages and there are some packages that I see little need for in a minimal system (such as aspell/aspell-en). However, I sense that there is little insentive for the Red Hat folks to spend any time really trimming out these extras. Furthermore, I doubt that it could be made significantly smaller.