Hi there
I've just dropped-kicked SuSE-9.1 off my new HP NX5000 (I've been using Redhat too long to change, and can't live without yum :-) and put FC3 on it. I've got WiFi working (madwifi), but one thing SuSe 9.1 had that I can't live without was the swsusp support. It was great! Hit the power button, and 10-15 sec later the laptop had written RAM to disk and turned itself off. Hit the power button again, and 15-20 sec later you were back where you started. Cool :-)
Anyway, I tried installing vanilla 2.6.10 patched with the current swsusp, but it fell all over itself while booting. Laptops are so fickle!
However, it likes FC3 well enough (i.e. one of the 1,000 kernel patches in it must have fixed something to do with my laptop hardware), so has anyone got a src.rpm or a patch-for-the-swsusp-patch that'll get the current FC3 kernel playing nicely with swsusp?
Thanks!
On Fri, Jan 21, 2005 at 12:48:39PM +1300, Jason Haar wrote:
Anyway, I tried installing vanilla 2.6.10 patched with the current swsusp, but it fell all over itself while booting. Laptops are so fickle!
If you don't mind, please be more specific than "patch with the current swsusp". There are at least two different swsusp forks that could both be considered "current"...
-Barry K. Nathan barryn@pobox.com
Barry K. Nathan wrote:
On Fri, Jan 21, 2005 at 12:48:39PM +1300, Jason Haar wrote:
Anyway, I tried installing vanilla 2.6.10 patched with the current swsusp, but it fell all over itself while booting. Laptops are so fickle!
If you don't mind, please be more specific than "patch with the current swsusp". There are at least two different swsusp forks that could both be considered "current"...
Oh - that's news to me. I only know of swsusp.sf.net.
...I guess that'd be why I wasn't any more specific ;-)
Care to point me at the forks?
On Fri, Jan 21, 2005 at 07:01:31PM +1300, Jason Haar wrote:
Oh - that's news to me. I only know of swsusp.sf.net. ...I guess that'd be why I wasn't any more specific ;-) Care to point me at the forks?
It was my understanding that they've actually been merged back together at this point.
On Fri, 2005-01-21 at 01:15 -0500, Matthew Miller wrote:
On Fri, Jan 21, 2005 at 07:01:31PM +1300, Jason Haar wrote:
Oh - that's news to me. I only know of swsusp.sf.net. ...I guess that'd be why I wasn't any more specific ;-) Care to point me at the forks?
It was my understanding that they've actually been merged back together at this point.
Well, the in-tree implementations (swsusp and pmdisk) have been merged as far as I have understood but I don't think that swsusp2 (which is what can be found at swsusp.sf.net) is merged.
In any case, software suspend is not enabled in the Fedora kernels as the Fedora kernel developers find it ugly and dangerous - at least that was the last that was the understanding I got last time this was discussed on this list.
/Per
Per Bjornsson wrote:
In any case, software suspend is not enabled in the Fedora kernels as the Fedora kernel developers find it ugly and dangerous - at least that was the last that was the understanding I got last time this was discussed on this list.
Yes - and hence my explanation that I am running a HP NX5000 which comes with SuSE 9.1 - where swsusp is implemented and works splendidly.
It appears SuSE and Redhat differ on this account. That's why I'm trying to find out if anyone has got it working
On Thu, 2005-01-20 at 22:28 -0800, Per Bjornsson wrote:
In any case, software suspend is not enabled in the Fedora kernels as the Fedora kernel developers find it ugly and dangerous - at least that was the last that was the understanding I got last time this was discussed on this list.
I want to run that risk. Exactly what flags do I need to make =y in the i686 kernel config of FC's Linux src.rpm ?
I've tried the obvious one, but the kernel _never_ compiles :|
Rui
On Fri, Jan 21, 2005 at 10:18:41AM +0000, Rui Miguel Seabra wrote:
I want to run that risk. Exactly what flags do I need to make =y in the i686 kernel config of FC's Linux src.rpm ?
I've tried the obvious one, but the kernel _never_ compiles :|
I think that compile failure was being caused by the 4g4g patch (at least, that used to be the case).
2.6.9/10's swsusp is slow and fragile compared to current mainline swsusp, so things might work out better if you try with FC4 kernels.
I need to get swsusp working on FC3 on my own laptop, so I'll have to tackle this problem soon. However, I might not get to it for another week or two.
-Barry K. Nathan barryn@pobox.com
On Fri, 2005-01-21 at 11:23 -0800, Barry K. Nathan wrote:
On Fri, Jan 21, 2005 at 10:18:41AM +0000, Rui Miguel Seabra wrote:
I want to run that risk. Exactly what flags do I need to make =y in the i686 kernel config of FC's Linux src.rpm ?
I've tried the obvious one, but the kernel _never_ compiles :|
I think that compile failure was being caused by the 4g4g patch (at least, that used to be the case).
2.6.9/10's swsusp is slow and fragile compared to current mainline swsusp, so things might work out better if you try with FC4 kernels.
I'm using rawhide.
I need to get swsusp working on FC3 on my own laptop, so I'll have to tackle this problem soon. However, I might not get to it for another week or two.
Unless you get the patch and proper Linux versions, it's a hell to try. Specially with FC's Linux :|
Rui
Hi,
On Fri, 21 Jan 2005 10:18:41 +0000, Rui Miguel Seabra wrote:
On Thu, 2005-01-20 at 22:28 -0800, Per Bjornsson wrote:
In any case, software suspend is not enabled in the Fedora kernels as the Fedora kernel developers find it ugly and dangerous - at least that was the last that was the understanding I got last time this was discussed on this list.
I want to run that risk. Exactly what flags do I need to make =y in the i686 kernel config of FC's Linux src.rpm ?
I've tried the obvious one, but the kernel _never_ compiles :|
I am in the same situation here. But for me software suspend is a stringent requirement, so I had to gave up official FC kernel and build my own. Now I have kernel-2.6.11rc1 with swsusp2 v2.1.5.14 running just fine on my IBM Thinkpad T41 and also is working fine on my colleague's R50p. Of course I would like to have it in FC kernels, but till then, I don't have other option. For a laptop, the ability to suspend is essential. At least it could be enabled in FC kernels but not used by any programs, and let the willing users to try to use it at their own risk.
Thx, Paul
On Fri, Jan 21, 2005 at 07:01:31PM +1300, Jason Haar wrote:
Oh - that's news to me. I only know of swsusp.sf.net.
...I guess that'd be why I wasn't any more specific ;-)
Care to point me at the forks?
swsusp.sf.net (swsusp2) is one of the forks.
The other fork is the swsusp that comes in the mainline kernel. (The most up-to-date version of this fork, in recent times anyway, tends to be the one that ships in the -mm patches; this version tends to go into mainline several days afterward.)
(There used to be a third fork, pmdisk, but it was merged into mainline swsusp a few kernel versions ago.)
Personally, I haven't used swsusp2, because mainline swsusp has been working reasonably well for me. I intend to try swsusp2 eventually, but I'm not sure when that will be...
-Barry K. Nathan barryn@pobox.com