Hi,
A number of app authors have growing concerns about the disappearance of gtkmm2 (the Gtk2/Gnome2 C++ bindings) from FC2. What happened ? gtkmm2 and al (gconfmm, libglademm, see http://gtkmm.sf.net/) were part of FC1, then dropped from FC2. Yet the gtkmm 2.2 libs are remarkably stable and mature (speaking from experience).
Many applications rely on these, for example Gabber and cdrdao. cdrdao is already part of FC2, but its GUI front-end (gcdmaster) is not built. Is there an official packager for gtkmm ? Is there anything we can do to help ? Basically this omission relegates a number of worthy projects into undeserved obscurity.
Denis Leroy, cdrdao project admin http://cdrdao.sf.net/
On Thu, 2004-06-03 at 16:21, Denis Leroy wrote:
Hi,
A number of app authors have growing concerns about the disappearance of gtkmm2 (the Gtk2/Gnome2 C++ bindings) from FC2. What happened ? gtkmm2 and al (gconfmm, libglademm, see http://gtkmm.sf.net/) were part of FC1, then dropped from FC2. Yet the gtkmm 2.2 libs are remarkably stable and mature (speaking from experience).
Well, they were never in Fedora Core as far as I know. (Nor in Red Hat Linux before that.) If you're wondering about Extras (Fedora.us), here's the bugzilla report for tracking it: http://bugzilla.fedora.us/show_bug.cgi?id=1679
(The old packages for FC1 don't build on FC2 apparently, updates are needed, besides probably gtkmm 2.4 is probably the highest priority?)
Many applications rely on these, for example Gabber and cdrdao. cdrdao is already part of FC2, but its GUI front-end (gcdmaster) is not built. Is there an official packager for gtkmm ? Is there anything we can do to help ? Basically this omission relegates a number of worthy projects into undeserved obscurity.
Well, you can help out with packaging and/or testing the packages; the bug I referenced should give you some information on whom to get in touch with (it looks like Michael Koziarski is working on the packages).
Cheers, Per
On 3 Jun, 2004, at 20:21, Per Bjornsson wrote:
On Thu, 2004-06-03 at 16:21, Denis Leroy wrote:
Hi,
A number of app authors have growing concerns about the disappearance of gtkmm2 (the Gtk2/Gnome2 C++ bindings) from FC2. What happened ? gtkmm2 and al (gconfmm, libglademm, see http://gtkmm.sf.net/) were part of FC1, then dropped from FC2. Yet the gtkmm 2.2 libs are remarkably stable and mature (speaking from experience).
Well, they were never in Fedora Core as far as I know. (Nor in Red Hat Linux before that.) If you're wondering about Extras (Fedora.us), here's the bugzilla report for tracking it: http://bugzilla.fedora.us/show_bug.cgi?id=1679
(The old packages for FC1 don't build on FC2 apparently, updates are needed, besides probably gtkmm 2.4 is probably the highest priority?)
Many applications rely on these, for example Gabber and cdrdao. cdrdao is already part of FC2, but its GUI front-end (gcdmaster) is not built. Is there an official packager for gtkmm ? Is there anything we can do to help ? Basically this omission relegates a number of worthy projects into undeserved obscurity.
Well, you can help out with packaging and/or testing the packages; the bug I referenced should give you some information on whom to get in touch with (it looks like Michael Koziarski is working on the packages).
That's for getting gtkmm2 into fedora.us, but what would it take to actually get gtkmm into an official Fedora Core release? As long as our users have to actually go out and set up separate repository just to get the libraries our applications depend on, users will considers those libraries to be obscure things. Gtkmm is very mature at this point and one of the major things holding it back is the fact that Red Hat and now Fedora Core do not include it.
Julian
On Thu, 3 Jun 2004 21:21:21 -0400, Julian Missig wrote:
That's for getting gtkmm2 into fedora.us, but what would it take to actually get gtkmm into an official Fedora Core release?
Actually there's a tendency towards moving more packages out of Core into Extras, even libraries.
Nevertheless, you can try your luck and submit a bug report about component "distribution" at bugzilla.redhat.com and ask for inclusion of gtkmm and friends.
As long as our users have to actually go out and set up separate repository just to get the libraries our applications depend on, users will considers those libraries to be obscure things.
"Fedora Extras" for add-on packages will be the future.
http://fedora.redhat.com/participate/terminology.html http://fedora.redhat.com/participate/