Been lucky enough to have a little time to try this out. We've been trying to get LTSP running here since about March, and it's not really flying beyond basic use.
So when I saw this project I grabbed the files and set up a box, the configuration is not only easy compared to LTSP, but I learned a lot about that process by doing this (LTSP also requires TFTP, LDAP, DHCPD, etc). I have the most recent build as of now.
I'm still working on getting my first snapshot to export, but it's a lot easier to check the work when you install phpldapadmin on the same system: you can see each item as it's created, and check to make sure it's all correct. Merely running the tests doesn't always catch typos and such. phpla is pretty easy to install, I untarred it into /var/www/html and renamed it phpla so I could just browse it. I've been using a lot of LAMP tools lately, sometimes just seeing the same info a different way helps a lot.
Anyway I'm here to mention an oddity in the documentation for Stateless. On this page:
http://fedora.redhat.com/docs/stateless/sn-snapshot-setup.html
it says to use the following command:
stateless-snapshooter --new --protosystem DemoSystem
since it's just a toy I'm actually using the name DemoSystem. However, the --new and --protosystem had to be replaced with -n -p before it would work. The error tells you very plainly that those are the available switches. for some reason --list works just fine, as does -l.
I haven't made any changes to the server, it's as plain as you can get it fresh off the download mirror. Anyway broken flags are just a minor thing but I couldn't find an email to send this to so the devel list seemed as safe a place as any.
On to the next step...
jason
Hi, Thanks for trying this stuff out.
On Tue, 2004-11-09 at 02:14, Jason Powers wrote:
Anyway I'm here to mention an oddity in the documentation for Stateless. On this page:
http://fedora.redhat.com/docs/stateless/sn-snapshot-setup.html
it says to use the following command:
stateless-snapshooter --new --protosystem DemoSystem
since it's just a toy I'm actually using the name DemoSystem. However, the --new and --protosystem had to be replaced with -n -p before it would work. The error tells you very plainly that those are the available switches. for some reason --list works just fine, as does -l.
Yeah, it was a minor error in the argument handling in the scripts. See:
http://mail.gnome.org/archives/desktop-devel-list/2004-January/msg00299.html
You can get the latest version of the code from CVS. See:
http://fedora.redhat.com/projects/stateless/
Thanks, Mark.
Hi, I would like to play with this "toy" as well so, before starting, just a couple of questions:
1. are the stateless tools already "aligned" with FC3?
2. since we are talking about experimental funcionality, is it always advisable to get the lastest code from the CVS intead of using the pre-packaged rpms?
thanks in advance
Gianluca
Hi,
On Wed, 2004-11-10 at 09:22, Gianluca Sforna wrote:
Hi, I would like to play with this "toy" as well so, before starting, just a couple of questions:
- are the stateless tools already "aligned" with FC3?
The work was done on a development release of FC3 and should work with FC3, yes.
- since we are talking about experimental funcionality, is it always
advisable to get the lastest code from the CVS intead of using the pre-packaged rpms?
Its certainly not a bad idea to take check out the "sml" and "readonly-root" modules from CVS and build RPMs from there. Its fairly straightforward to do too - just "make dist" and copy the tarball and spec file to /usr/src/redhat and rebuild.
Cheers, Mark.
Just wondering - is there any "out of the box" ltsp rpm's to be found (for fc3)? I have some thin clients and a thin client server, and really want to run it off LTSP. If it could simply be as simple as "yum install ltsp system-config-ltsp" "system-config-ltsp" *set which network card to use "internally" etc* "chkconfig ltsp on"
*dreaming sweeet dreams*
tir, 09.11.2004 kl. 03.14 skrev Jason Powers:
Been lucky enough to have a little time to try this out. We've been trying to get LTSP running here since about March, and it's not really flying beyond basic use.
So when I saw this project I grabbed the files and set up a box, the configuration is not only easy compared to LTSP, but I learned a lot about that process by doing this (LTSP also requires TFTP, LDAP, DHCPD, etc). I have the most recent build as of now.
I'm still working on getting my first snapshot to export, but it's a lot easier to check the work when you install phpldapadmin on the same system: you can see each item as it's created, and check to make sure it's all correct. Merely running the tests doesn't always catch typos and such. phpla is pretty easy to install, I untarred it into /var/www/html and renamed it phpla so I could just browse it. I've been using a lot of LAMP tools lately, sometimes just seeing the same info a different way helps a lot.
Anyway I'm here to mention an oddity in the documentation for Stateless. On this page:
http://fedora.redhat.com/docs/stateless/sn-snapshot-setup.html
it says to use the following command:
stateless-snapshooter --new --protosystem DemoSystem
since it's just a toy I'm actually using the name DemoSystem. However, the --new and --protosystem had to be replaced with -n -p before it would work. The error tells you very plainly that those are the available switches. for some reason --list works just fine, as does -l.
I haven't made any changes to the server, it's as plain as you can get it fresh off the download mirror. Anyway broken flags are just a minor thing but I couldn't find an email to send this to so the devel list seemed as safe a place as any.
On to the next step...
jason
On Thu, 2004-11-11 at 19:15 +0100, Kyrre Ness Sjobak wrote:
Just wondering - is there any "out of the box" ltsp rpm's to be found (for fc3)? I have some thin clients and a thin client server, and really want to run it off LTSP
k12ltsp.org
Current version is on FC2 but I think Eric Harrison is looking to fix that Real Soon Now.
-- Dan Young Parkrose School District
tor, 11.11.2004 kl. 19.24 skrev Dan Young:
On Thu, 2004-11-11 at 19:15 +0100, Kyrre Ness Sjobak wrote:
Just wondering - is there any "out of the box" ltsp rpm's to be found (for fc3)? I have some thin clients and a thin client server, and really want to run it off LTSP
k12ltsp.org
Current version is on FC2 but I think Eric Harrison is looking to fix that Real Soon Now.
I have a (otherwise) all-fc2 (soon 3) net (at a school). How easily would it be to put a k12LTSP server in the middle of this?
-- Dan Young Parkrose School District
On Fri, 12 Nov 2004 20:30:03 +0100, Kyrre Ness Sjobak kyrre@solution-forge.net wrote:
tor, 11.11.2004 kl. 19.24 skrev Dan Young:
On Thu, 2004-11-11 at 19:15 +0100, Kyrre Ness Sjobak wrote:
Just wondering - is there any "out of the box" ltsp rpm's to be found (for fc3)? I have some thin clients and a thin client server, and really want to run it off LTSP
k12ltsp.org
Current version is on FC2 but I think Eric Harrison is looking to fix that Real Soon Now.
I have a (otherwise) all-fc2 (soon 3) net (at a school). How easily would it be to put a k12LTSP server in the middle of this?
I think that the K12LTSP people are working on the RPMS needed for this. 4.2.0 or something is the release number for it.
fre, 12.11.2004 kl. 21.07 skrev Stephen J. Smoogen:
On Fri, 12 Nov 2004 20:30:03 +0100, Kyrre Ness Sjobak kyrre@solution-forge.net wrote:
tor, 11.11.2004 kl. 19.24 skrev Dan Young:
On Thu, 2004-11-11 at 19:15 +0100, Kyrre Ness Sjobak wrote:
Just wondering - is there any "out of the box" ltsp rpm's to be found (for fc3)? I have some thin clients and a thin client server, and really want to run it off LTSP
k12ltsp.org
Current version is on FC2 but I think Eric Harrison is looking to fix that Real Soon Now.
I have a (otherwise) all-fc2 (soon 3) net (at a school). How easily would it be to put a k12LTSP server in the middle of this?
I think that the K12LTSP people are working on the RPMS needed for this. 4.2.0 or something is the release number for it.
Nice. But by far, the easiest would be to drop a repo into /etc/yum.repo.d and "yum install LTSP" :)
On Sat, 2004-11-13 at 17:04 +0100, Kyrre Ness Sjobak wrote:
fre, 12.11.2004 kl. 21.07 skrev Stephen J. Smoogen:
I think that the K12LTSP people are working on the RPMS needed for this. 4.2.0 or something is the release number for it.
Nice. But by far, the easiest would be to drop a repo into /etc/yum.repo.d and "yum install LTSP" :)
The announcement regarding 4.2.0's alpha status: https://listman.redhat.com/archives/k12osn/2004-November/msg00486.html
/etc/yum.repos.d/k12ltsp.repo: [k12ltsp] name=K12LTSP baseurl=http://k12linux.mesd.k12.or.us/yum/fc3/ enabled=1 gpgcheck=1
# rpm --import http://k12linux.mesd.k12.or.us/eharrison.asc # yum install k12ltsp-core
-- Dan Young Parkrose School District
lør, 13.11.2004 kl. 20.28 skrev Dan Young:
On Sat, 2004-11-13 at 17:04 +0100, Kyrre Ness Sjobak wrote:
fre, 12.11.2004 kl. 21.07 skrev Stephen J. Smoogen:
I think that the K12LTSP people are working on the RPMS needed for this. 4.2.0 or something is the release number for it.
Nice. But by far, the easiest would be to drop a repo into /etc/yum.repo.d and "yum install LTSP" :)
The announcement regarding 4.2.0's alpha status: https://listman.redhat.com/archives/k12osn/2004-November/msg00486.html
/etc/yum.repos.d/k12ltsp.repo: [k12ltsp] name=K12LTSP baseurl=http://k12linux.mesd.k12.or.us/yum/fc3/ enabled=1 gpgcheck=1
# rpm --import http://k12linux.mesd.k12.or.us/eharrison.asc # yum install k12ltsp-core
Thanks, that post was very interesting :)
But why is it installing all kinds of stuff? All i (and probably a lot of others) want is the thin-client functionality set up and ready to go. If i want scribus as well, i would do "yum install scribus".