04-Dec-2003 fedora-devel-list-request@redhat.com:
Subject: Re: Fedora minimal install option From: Stan Bubrouski stan@ccs.neu.edu
Not at all. Minimal installs are great on older machines where only a couple basic services need to be offered. For instance an old 166MHz pentium used for a gateway or as an SMTP relay.
Yes, that is it! :) Why should I install those packages what I will never use on the machine? :o
From: Xose Vazquez Perez xose@wanadoo.es
Not necessarily only in old hardware. There are a lot of places where a _spartan_ installation is great idea: web nfs database... servers, snort , firewalls, ... usually with *dedicated* services. And there are important benefits: installations, re-installations and crash recovery are faster, it's more secure, less packages to maintain ...
Yes, that is it too! It will be more secure without the unnecessary packages!
From: Rui Miguel Seabra rms@1407.org Irrelevant question.
The relevant questions are: Is so much software needed in a Minimal Installation? No Can Fedora Core do better? Certainly so. Should it? I think so.
Yes, that is it!
From: Panu Matilainen pmatilai@welho.com FWIW I have a P90 box with 450MB disk running FC1 as a gw/firewall.. and diskspace isn't even tight (relatively speaking of course :) . though I must confess it was originally installed as RH7.2 IIRC and then over time upgraded with apt, later anacondas don't run since its got just 32MB memory.
Ohh yes. RedHat/Fedora should have a minimal kernel (like other linux distributions) for the installation progress and otherwise. :)
Bye! Gabor
Mako Gabor (makgab@freemail.hu) said:
Ohh yes. RedHat/Fedora should have a minimal kernel (like other linux distributions) for the installation progress and otherwise. :)
I believe you misunderstand the issues. It's not the kernel that prevents installing on a 32MB machine.
Bill
On Thu, Dec 04, 2003 at 02:20:44PM -0500, Bill Nottingham wrote:
Mako Gabor (makgab@freemail.hu) said:
Ohh yes. RedHat/Fedora should have a minimal kernel (like other linux distributions) for the installation progress and otherwise. :)
I believe you misunderstand the issues. It's not the kernel that prevents installing on a 32MB machine.
To explain more: its mostly anaconda. With miniconda hacks you can get down to about 64Mb (actually CD fedora will install fine on a 64Mb box anyway). Below that needs lots of rpm transactions not one if I understood jbj right (but dont quote me on it ;))
With yum I don't care too much. Other than for testing it seems yum is good enough I've done the last install