I downloaded and installed the Fedora 9 ("Sulphur") Preview release over the weekend, replacing my current F-8 installation. The following is a report of my experiences with it, so far.
My hardware is Smolt UUID 6059d15d-2980-42a7-8027-525b1ec25833 [1].
Anaconda: Everything went fabulously. I easily saved my /home partition and re-sized some others (all ext3) before installing. The install actually seemed to take significantly less time than the same Fedora 8 configuration (same box); but I don't know how much of that is subjective and how much is actually quicker. =)
(Please note, though, that I do not use LVM, nor did I try encrypted partitions. I don't have a need for either of those options.)
X/RHGB: Beautiful. The new theme work is brilliant. I did not notice any flicker when starting X initially. It recognized my G965 onboard and properly used the intel driver. 3-D and XVideo acceleration work as expected.
Firstboot: No errors or faults. Since I kept my /home partition from the F8 installation, I rather like how it warned me about the user directory already existing when I re-created the 'pgordon' user for myself. (Was that in previous releases?)
Input: Setting up the caps-lock as a compose key for diacritics (Spanish) was simple as it has always been though GNOME's keyboard preferences capplet. Getting Japanese input with SCIM was a bit more of a hassle though. For some reason, even though installed just about everything I could find SCIM-/Anthy-related, im-chooser still errored with a "No input methods found" message when I tried to select it. However, I updated everything to current rawhide using PackageKit and rebooted; and SCIM+Anthy once again works beautifully and as expected (Romaji method). My Wacom BambooFun tablet also worked beautifully with no effort on my part, whereas I had to manually compile and use the linuxwacom stuff in F8.
(On a side note, I had stability issues with SCIM+Epiphany in F8; but try as I may, I have yet to be able to produce the same issues on my Sulphur install.)
PackageKit/PolicyKit: WONDERFUL. I love the work you developers are doing with these things. The only regression I saw from Pirut/Yumex is that there was no way to select and install multiple packages at once. However, I found after some experimenting that I was able to easily select one package, click Install, then select others and click Install again, and they would be queued as sequential transactions. Spiffy.
NetworkManager: Another awesome feature. I had been using this in F8, but with Sulphur, I found it much simpler to edit my DNS settings through its GUI connection editor [2], instead of having to hardcode a bunch of IP addresses in /etc/sysconfig files. My home Wi-Fi (802.11b) works beautifully, and NetworkManager takes care of the nasty configuration stuffs for me. \o/
SELinux: Happily does its job and stays out of my way, as it should. I've noticed only that I have yet to notice anything from it, which is a very good sign. =)
Swfdec: YouTube works beautifully "out of the box" after installing the various swfdec packages through Anaconda. Yay!
Sulphur is looking AWESOME so far; but I will be sure to file any bugs should they arise in my using it. =]
[1] http://www.smolts.org/client/show_all/pub_6059d15d-2980-42a7-8027-525b1ec258... [2] My ISP's DNS is horrendously slow, so I have all of our computers at home set to use OpenDNS's namservers. Much nicer...
Just out of curiosity, when you saved /home, and created the same user in the new installation. Did the new user get the same UID by chance, or by design :)
2008/4/22 Peter Gordon peter@thecodergeek.com:
I downloaded and installed the Fedora 9 ("Sulphur") Preview release over the weekend, replacing my current F-8 installation. The following is a report of my experiences with it, so far.
My hardware is Smolt UUID 6059d15d-2980-42a7-8027-525b1ec25833 [1].
Anaconda: Everything went fabulously. I easily saved my /home partition and re-sized some others (all ext3) before installing. The install actually seemed to take significantly less time than the same Fedora 8 configuration (same box); but I don't know how much of that is subjective and how much is actually quicker. =)
(Please note, though, that I do not use LVM, nor did I try encrypted partitions. I don't have a need for either of those options.)
X/RHGB: Beautiful. The new theme work is brilliant. I did not notice any flicker when starting X initially. It recognized my G965 onboard and properly used the intel driver. 3-D and XVideo acceleration work as expected.
Firstboot: No errors or faults. Since I kept my /home partition from the F8 installation, I rather like how it warned me about the user directory already existing when I re-created the 'pgordon' user for myself. (Was that in previous releases?)
Input: Setting up the caps-lock as a compose key for diacritics (Spanish) was simple as it has always been though GNOME's keyboard preferences capplet. Getting Japanese input with SCIM was a bit more of a hassle though. For some reason, even though installed just about everything I could find SCIM-/Anthy-related, im-chooser still errored with a "No input methods found" message when I tried to select it. However, I updated everything to current rawhide using PackageKit and rebooted; and SCIM+Anthy once again works beautifully and as expected (Romaji method). My Wacom BambooFun tablet also worked beautifully with no effort on my part, whereas I had to manually compile and use the linuxwacom stuff in F8.
(On a side note, I had stability issues with SCIM+Epiphany in F8; but try as I may, I have yet to be able to produce the same issues on my Sulphur install.)
PackageKit/PolicyKit: WONDERFUL. I love the work you developers are doing with these things. The only regression I saw from Pirut/Yumex is that there was no way to select and install multiple packages at once. However, I found after some experimenting that I was able to easily select one package, click Install, then select others and click Install again, and they would be queued as sequential transactions. Spiffy.
NetworkManager: Another awesome feature. I had been using this in F8, but with Sulphur, I found it much simpler to edit my DNS settings through its GUI connection editor [2], instead of having to hardcode a bunch of IP addresses in /etc/sysconfig files. My home Wi-Fi (802.11b) works beautifully, and NetworkManager takes care of the nasty configuration stuffs for me. \o/
SELinux: Happily does its job and stays out of my way, as it should. I've noticed only that I have yet to notice anything from it, which is a very good sign. =)
Swfdec: YouTube works beautifully "out of the box" after installing the various swfdec packages through Anaconda. Yay!
Sulphur is looking AWESOME so far; but I will be sure to file any bugs should they arise in my using it. =]
[1] http://www.smolts.org/client/show_all/pub_6059d15d-2980-42a7-8027-525b1ec258... [2] My ISP's DNS is horrendously slow, so I have all of our computers at home set to use OpenDNS's namservers. Much nicer... -- Peter Gordon (codergeek42) GnuPG Public Key ID: 0xFFC19479 / Fingerprint: DD68 A414 56BD 6368 D957 9666 4268 CB7A FFC1 9479
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On Tue, 2008-04-22 at 09:55 +0200, Ahmed Kamal wrote:
Just out of curiosity, when you saved /home, and created the same user in the new installation. Did the new user get the same UID by chance, or by design :)
My Sulphur user received the same UID (500) as I had in Werewolf.
The UIDs have always started at 500 since as far I can remember, even across distros (at least, between Gentoo and Fedora).
On Mon, 2008-04-21 at 21:00 -0700, Peter Gordon wrote:
PackageKit/PolicyKit: WONDERFUL. I love the work you developers are doing with these things.
Thanks. :-)
The only regression I saw from Pirut/Yumex is that there was no way to select and install multiple packages at once.
On the TODO for 0.2.0 - if you want to help, just on the packagekit mailing list and suggest UI for this. I'm not convinced a [x] foo [ ] bar is the best way to do this.
However, I found after some experimenting that I was able to easily select one package, click Install, then select others and click Install again, and they would be queued as sequential transactions. Spiffy.
Yup. And in 0.2.0 we'll support GPG signing that doesn't suck. :-)
Richard.
On Tue, 2008-04-22 at 22:42 +0100, Richard Hughes wrote:
On the TODO for 0.2.0 - if you want to help, just on the packagekit mailing list and suggest UI for this. I'm not convinced a [x] foo [ ] bar is the best way to do this.
Excellent. I'm happy just knowing it's being worked on. Thanks for your diligence! :-)