Just an FYI, we are after Beta, which means we're after the Feature Freeze. That means the changes you bring to Fedora 9 now should be of bugfix nature, and not of new feature nature. We have a very tight schedule leading up to the final freeze, and every day counts. Any new instability brought in due to new features will be extremely frowned upon and may cause the project to slip the Fedora 9 release date, which is something I'm trying very hard to avoid.
Please think twice before bringing new things into Fedora 9. If you really want to work on new feature stuff, please request an early F-9 branch so that you can work on the new stuff without breaking Fedora 9.
Dnia 26-03-2008, śro o godzinie 10:15 -0400, Jesse Keating pisze:
Just an FYI, we are after Beta, which means we're after the Feature Freeze. That means the changes you bring to Fedora 9 now should be of bugfix nature, and not of new feature nature. We have a very tight schedule leading up to the final freeze, and every day counts. Any new instability brought in due to new features will be extremely frowned upon and may cause the project to slip the Fedora 9 release date, which is something I'm trying very hard to avoid.
7 was the last "slipping" release, if I have good memory.
Please think twice before bringing new things into Fedora 9. If you really want to work on new feature stuff, please request an early F-9 branch so that you can work on the new stuff without breaking Fedora 9.
Tell it upstream. Firefox still has many bugs opened and not touched.
New appear quickly.
On Wed, 2008-03-26 at 15:41 +0100, Jakub 'Livio' Rusinek wrote:
Tell it upstream. Firefox still has many bugs opened and not touched.
New appear quickly.
Firefox upstream is in bugfix mode, so the things coming from them are bugfixes. Bugfixes in Fedora can come in the form of newer upstream versions, because they to do bugfix releases. Just be aware that if you're bringing in a new upstream release that it is for bugfixes, and not bugfixes + new features.
Hi,
On Wed, Mar 26, 2008 at 10:15:26AM -0400, Jesse Keating wrote:
Just an FYI, we are after Beta, which means we're after the Feature Freeze. That means the changes you bring to Fedora 9 now should be of bugfix nature, and not of new feature nature. We have a very tight schedule leading up to the final freeze, and every day counts. Any new instability brought in due to new features will be extremely frowned upon and may cause the project to slip the Fedora 9 release date, which is something I'm trying very hard to avoid.
Please think twice before bringing new things into Fedora 9. If you really want to work on new feature stuff, please request an early F-9 branch so that you can work on the new stuff without breaking Fedora 9.
The schedule says
8 April 2008 Branch all packages for Fedora 9
Does that mean that after April 8th we're safe to mes with rawhide w/o endangering F9?
Axel Thimm wrote:
The schedule says
8 April 2008 Branch all packages for Fedora 9
Does that mean that after April 8th we're safe to mes with rawhide w/o endangering F9?
No, it meant F9 development was begun and rawhide was branched away from F8 on that date; it meant rawhide could be messed with without effecting F8.
Andrew Farris wrote:
No, it meant F9 development was begun and rawhide was branched away from F8 on that date; it meant rawhide could be messed with without effecting F8.
Wow, sorry disregard this TV-while-typing nonsense (I should answer questions I think about and know the answer for). I think that what you said Axel would be correct, in that dist-f10 should be available for packages to branch to after april 8 but rawhide will stay dist-f9 until release date. But any changes made in 'rawhide' or dist-f9 branches would still effect f9. But someone clearly needs to confirm what I just said...
On Fri, Mar 28, 2008 at 01:43:45AM -0700, Andrew Farris wrote:
Andrew Farris wrote:
No, it meant F9 development was begun and rawhide was branched away from F8 on that date; it meant rawhide could be messed with without effecting F8.
Wow, sorry disregard this TV-while-typing nonsense (I should answer questions I think about and know the answer for). I think that what you said Axel would be correct, in that dist-f10 should be available for packages to branch to after april 8 but rawhide will stay dist-f9 until release date. But any changes made in 'rawhide' or dist-f9 branches would still effect f9. But someone clearly needs to confirm what I just said...
Actually what I want to know is when could I start committing/building in CVS' devel w/o hurting F9.
More specificially I wanted to submit freenx-server/client packages, which while still close to the old packaged "freenx" could carry some new bugs which I'd like some rawhide/updates-testing time to sort out.
The bad thing about shortly before a release is that you don't have updates-testing until release day.
On Fri, 2008-03-28 at 11:30 +0200, Axel Thimm wrote:
On Fri, Mar 28, 2008 at 01:43:45AM -0700, Andrew Farris wrote:
Andrew Farris wrote:
No, it meant F9 development was begun and rawhide was branched away from F8 on that date; it meant rawhide could be messed with without effecting F8.
Wow, sorry disregard this TV-while-typing nonsense (I should answer questions I think about and know the answer for). I think that what you said Axel would be correct, in that dist-f10 should be available for packages to branch to after april 8 but rawhide will stay dist-f9 until release date. But any changes made in 'rawhide' or dist-f9 branches would still effect f9. But someone clearly needs to confirm what I just said...
Actually what I want to know is when could I start committing/building in CVS' devel w/o hurting F9.
Now, if you do an early branch request. April 8 if you want to wait.
More specificially I wanted to submit freenx-server/client packages, which while still close to the old packaged "freenx" could carry some new bugs which I'd like some rawhide/updates-testing time to sort out.
Well, there's a problem there. Even after the branching occurs, your builds won't hit rawhide as that is composed from the dist-f9 tags still. So dist-f10 builds will be queued in koji and can be gotten from there, but it won't hit a wider audience until after F9 is released.
josh
On Fri, 2008-03-28 at 10:17 +0200, Axel Thimm wrote:
The schedule says
8 April 2008 Branch all packages for Fedora 9
Does that mean that after April 8th we're safe to mes with rawhide w/o endangering F9?
Yes, at that time, anything that hasn't yet been given an F-9 branch will be given one. At that point, builds from devel/ will be held in Koji and queued up for post-f9 rawhide.
Please be aware that you can now request an early branch if you want. You will be given an F-9 directory in your package module, and any build you do from F-9 will go to the Fedora 9 collections (and rawhide) while builds you do from devel/ will queue up for post-f9 rawhide.