Le mardi 16 décembre 2008 à 12:02 -0600, Matthew Woehlke a écrit :
Nicolas Mailhot wrote:
Le lundi 15 décembre 2008 à 19:16 -0600, Matthew Woehlke a écrit :
Nicolas Mailhot wrote:
Le lundi 15 décembre 2008 à 08:41 -0800, Toshio Kuratomi a écrit :
Currently, I'm opposed to having a Guideline that mandates UTF-8 over ASCII.
And I'm opposed to continuing to abuse ASCII glyphs and pretend they stand for something other than their creators intended. One couldn't avoid it when the available encoding didn't provide a clean way to write some stuff, but doing it in 2008 is plain dumb.
I must have missed the 'fancy quotes' keys on my keyboard.
Complain to your xkb maintainer. Mine has «»“”‘’‚„
And those would be what buttons again?
Those would be whatever the maintainer of your xkb layout wants them to be. Adding this stuff to an xkb layout is not rocket science and has been possible for a long time.
" is a clearly-marked key on my keyboard. Those others are not. Until mainstream keyboards (including "mainstream in the U.S.") have actual keys for fancy quotes, I think asking/requiring people to use something other than " is arguably unreasonable.
There is not need to mark stuff on keyboards to assign keycodes to them and indeed several millions on people have generated the euro using unmarked keys for several years when it was introduced.
Saying "xkb supports it" doesn't help if I have no idea how to make xkb generate those characters (plus, what do I do if I'm not using X?).
Then you're not writing human text, you're writing computer code.