On 14. 11. 19 17:22, Fabio Valentini wrote:
On Thu, Nov 14, 2019 at 4:57 PM Miro Hrončok mhroncok@redhat.com wrote:
Hello, in this thread (Fedora 32 System-Wide Change proposal: Modules in Non-Modular Buildroot)
https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@lists.fedoraproject.org/...
I've asked whether it wouldn't be in fact much easier to keep the default versions of our packages non-modular.
Others have said they are interested in this as well. A huge thread happened but it hasn't delivered an answer. Arguments were made that default modular streams are planned to deliver the exact same experience as non-modular packages, yet it was not said if it wouldn't be easier to just deliver non-modular packages for default versions.
Maybe it would be helpful to try to reformulate the question:
**What are the benefits of default modular streams over non-modular packages?**
I'll admit that I personally don't see any benefits, but of course that doesn't mean that they don't exist or that it's not worth having this discussion.
(snip)
Considering we have 6 default modular streams,
Just to make this explicit for the people who don't know how to determine this themselves (which includes me): Which six modules do provide a default stream? I can't seem to tell by looking at any modules' yaml files.
I've took that number from the document linked in:
https://pagure.io/fesco/issue/2255#comment-610332
It lists the following 6 modules:
dwm:6.2 avocado:69lts scala:2.10 ant:1.10 gimp:2.10 maven:3.5
It also lists the eclipse module as a potential candidate. I've decide not to count it, because at the same time, gimp is dropping the default in:
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1772469
So either way, we are at 6.
I thing the canonical source of this data is:
https://pagure.io/releng/fedora-module-defaults/tree/master
If I understand the format correctly, the yamls that have the stream key have default.
[fedora-module-defaults (master)]$ rg -F -g '!tests' 'stream: ' ant.yaml 5: stream: 1.10
dwm.yaml 6: stream: 6.2
gimp.yaml 5: stream: 2.10
scala.yaml 5: stream: 2.10
maven.yaml 5: stream: 3.5
avocado.yaml 5: stream: 69lts
I hope this counts as a clarifying question, and not as a negative "this is difficult to figure out" criticism ;)
It does count as clarifying question :)