On Jueves 04 Junio 2009 08:59:23 Ralf Corsepius escribió:
Kevin Kofler wrote:
Steve Grubb wrote:
Not if its closed. How would I be notified that the fix is in Fedora? If the bug is severe enough, shouldn't the upstream commit be applied to Fedora's package and the package pushed out for testing? Is all this going to happen if the bug is closed?
You're supposed to be the reporter of or CCed on the upstream bug, then you'll get notified of the fix and can reopen our bug asking for a backport of the fix if it's really that important (but keep in mind that Fedora packages often get upgraded to a bugfix release anyway, for example our KDE gets upgraded to a bugfix release about once a month).
You are still presuming your users to be interested in developing and working on your package.
Yes and no - most of our bugs come from well known contributors - it's safe to them to say - please, report it upstream. They just ask as - is it downstream or upstream issue? Are you aware of this issue? If we know/we can see that bugreporter is ordinary user, we're trying to help him report this issue or we simply do it. It's not - upstream, close, shut your mouth, don't bother us!
My final conclussion - there are power users, there are ordinary users, some of them of better knowledge, some worst - and we should help them, guide them - it's our work and we have to take care about them individually... There can't be one policy to match all cases...
This simply does not apply - They want to use your package.
As maintainers, we will also try to CC ourselves on those upstream bugs to track their status, but utilimately it's the reporter who cares the most about seeing his/her bug fixed.
I could not disagree more. People with this kind of attude should lable themselves maintainer and stop packaging packages in Fedora.
You can ask our users if they are satisfied or not. From comments and posts I think they ARE! Check our fedora-kde list, IRC channel #fedora-kde as most of bugs are solved there even before they hit BZ...
Jaroslav
Ralf