On Fri, Sep 11, 2015 at 1:22 PM, Chris Murphy <lists(a)colorremedies.com> wrote:
On Fri, Sep 11, 2015 at 10:59 AM, Adam Miller
<maxamillion(a)fedoraproject.org> wrote:
> I'm pretty neutral on B or C. I don't really care and also don't think
it
> should even remotely be a concern of ours. Not only do we not have
> testing for it but we don't even have the building blocks in place to
> work towards testing it. VirtualBox is bad and those who use it should
> feel bad.[0]
I'm curious what you think others should feel when they use VMware
ESXi or Fusion, or Microsoft Hyper-V, in particular as it compares to
the feeling they should have when using VirtualBox?
On Windows and OS X, there is no qemu+kvm+libvirt. So I see VirtualBox
as the least bad option on those platforms. When I'm using Fedora I
use vmm/virsh because, well yeah VirtualBox is like the booger I can't
flick off on OS X, meanwhile on Fedora there's something better.
Nothing, it was a rude comment that I shouldn't have made.
> This is probably not a popular opinion and I'm fine with that, but we
> would have to install something that we very publicly speak out
> against in order to test this. I'm not yet ready to throw out Fedora's
> values for the sake of some OS X user's convenience but that's just
> me.
OK well considering the UX of Linux on Macs is highly variable between
totally utterly frustrating shit, and semi-tolerable except for
exhibits A, B, C, and D all of which suck. The incentive, therefore,
is to just run proprietary OS X on proprietary hardware and VirtualBox
instead of yet more proprietary crap in order to semi-sanely run
something that's not crap or proprietary without having to buy
additional hardware and all the costs that ensue.
*shrug*
It's sorta like playing cards and telling someone they should feel bad
about the hand they've been dealt. Their choice was really limited to
showing up at a particular game in a particular location, not the
details of the hand they're dealt.
I don't think that's remotely the same thing but I'm fine agreeing to
disagree.
I'm just going to step away from this thread, y'all decide on what you
want and/or what you think users want.
-AdamM
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Chris Murphy
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