On 12/07/2009 10:55 PM, Adam Williamson wrote:
During FUDCon, we've been working on revising the Fedora release
criteria.
John Poelstra had already fleshed out a structure and much of the final
content, and we've been revising and tweaking it in conjunction with QA
(myself, Will Woods and James Laska), release engineering (Jesse Keating),
anaconda team (especially Denise Dumas and Peter Jones) and desktop team
(Christopher Aillon and Matthias Clasen, who provided suggestions at an
earlier stage).
Is this discussion available somewhere online?
The new structure is based around a general page and specific pages
for the
Fedora 13 Alpha, Beta and Final releases (which have been written
generically so they can easily be converted into pages for F14 and all
future releases just by copying and pasting). You can find the criteria
here:
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_Release_Criteria
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_13_Alpha_Release_Criteria
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_13_Beta_Release_Criteria
Category 10 in the Beta Release Criteria.
"The installer must be able to successfully complete an upgrade
installation from a clean, fully updated default installation of the
previous stable Fedora release, either via preupgrade or by booting to
the installer manually"
I think we first need to get established if Fedora officially "supports"
upgrades now. If it does we need create and add several upgrade test
cases and to do so we need to know what "default installation" is. What
packages that installation contains and since Releng needs to provide us
with that list it would be good if they document and explain at the same
time how and why they choose to make that selection the default. (
Default dvd install from my perspective should just be secure base no
auto selection for the end user in the installer. )
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_13_Final_Release_Criteria
they should contain everything you need to know. We based most of the
criteria around testing that was already being carried out but with no
formal policy basis, with additional suggestions from the anaconda and
desktop teams.
Where there representatives from all the *DE GNOME KDE, XFCE, LXDE SUGAR
MOBLIN ( I would not be surprise if I'm forgetting some ) present and
chimed in on this? What where these suggestion that Christopher and
Matthias and others made encase any one wants to chime in and provide
additional feedback?
Desktop team - can you please let us know of any additional things
that you
would expect to be working at each point during the release cycle? Note
that only things that *must* be working at each point should be listed on
these pages, not nice-to-haves. You must be able to commit to the idea
that, if any criterion on the page is not met, we would slip the release in
question.
Was this sent to all the *DE lists? ( Noticed that only Gnome was cc on
this ).
JBG