>>>> "Paul" == Paul Michael Reilly
<pmr(a)pajato.com> writes:
Paul> Erik Harrison wrote:
> On 9/3/06, Paul Michael Reilly <pmr(a)pajato.com> wrote:
>> I bit the bullet and installed Xfce 4.4 beta 2
>> (xfce4-4.3.90.2-installer.bin) on my rawhide system. I installed
>> it to /usr/local thinking that putting /usr/local/bin on my PATH
>> variable before /usr/bin would cause the beta2 executables to run
>> before any yum installed (fedora-extras-development.repo) Xfce 4.2
>> executables (/usr/bin) so my first question is: was/is this
>> wishful thinking (that I could have both 4.4 beta 2 and 4.2
>> installed to the same system and not encounter serious issues)?
> Officially I believe having multiple installs is unsupported. Some
> of us devs do it (I do not) and in the past, attempts have lead to
> major library conflicts
Paul> No problem. I realize full well that I am pursuing a high risk
Paul> course. FWIW I faced the choice of using the supported (Fedora)
Paul> Xfce 4.2 (getting real stale), using a developer repo that a
Paul> RedHat dude created with Xfce 4.4 beta 1 or biting the bullet
Paul> and installing Xfce 4.4 beta 2. The latter was most appealing
Paul> to me even though it is fraught with risk.
You might be refering to my Xfce4.4 beta repository here. I don't work
for RedHat, I do maintain Xfce in fedora extras however. ;)
I unfortunately choose 'xfce-4.4b1' in the repo name when I created
it, but it does have the latest b2 packages in it. I expect to also be
packaging up the rc1 packages as they come out later today
(hopefully).
I would appreciate any feedback on the beta packages...
>> I am running a dual head configuration (individual displays
rather
>> than xinerama). There are two issues that pop up immediately that
>> I need to solve:
>>
>> 1) there is a bar across the top of both displays that appears to
>> be an orphaned panel, i.e. I cannot get rid of it (the original
>> panel that was at the top has been moved to the bottom of screen 0
>> and works just fine there.
Paul> I was able to solve this problem. I killed two taskbar
Paul> processes, saved and then restarted the session. They were
Paul> gone. This says to me that Xfce 4.2 cruft was stored in the
Paul> saved session.
Yeah. :(
>> 2) I cannot seem to use the settings->panel manager dialog
to
>> accomplish much with the second display. When I click on the box
>> representing the second display the dialog disappears along with
>> all the applications running in the fist display. I will need to
>> repeat this a few more times before I can accurately describe what
>> is really going on, so this description represents my first take.
>>
> I'm not sure what to tell you here. I don't believe any of the
> primary devs use Xinerama so support has always been based on heavy
> reliance on user testing. So ordinarily I'd encourage you to file
> some detailed bug reports. But since you have two versions of Xfce
> installed....
Paul> which means it will probably be a waste of my time, so I will
Paul> hold off until Fedora supports xfce 4.4 in rawhide, something
Paul> I'm not expecting anytime soon. Hopefully by that time I will
Paul> have pulled out enough arrows to add value to that
Paul> discussion/process. :-)
I also don't have any Xinerama setups, so not sure I can assis here
either.
I haven't updated Xfce in rawhide yet as the current release is
4.4beta2. I don't want to put in a beta and have that be released with
fc6. If the rc1 or rc2 are pretty stable and in time, I might be able
to get it in before fc6 goes out...
FWIW, I am running devel on my laptop and using the beta2 rpms from my
repository, and have only run into a few snags.
Paul> -pmr
kevin