let's stop it, there seems to be a communication barrier we are
unable to overcome
Konqeuror is no worse[*] filemanager than Dolphin, suggesting
usage of Dolphin is a step aside ... that direction of discussion
leads to nowhere, and we are already pretty offtopic
[*] of course depends on how do you set the criteria
once again thanks to Adam Williamson for clarifying the source of
the original problem, and sorry for me not being able to keep my
mouth shut
K.
On Wednesday 04 of November 2009 16:57:07 David wrote:
On 11/4/2009 8:46 AM, Karel Volný wrote:
> ...
>
>> set by step volumes (tons?) of TFM
>>
>> 1: login in as user.
>> 2: as user open a terminal window
>> 3: switch from the user to root using steps 3a and 3b
>> 3a: type su - <enter> at the prompt
>> 3b: enter root's password <enter> at the prompt
>> 4: type konqueror & <enter> (the & lets you keep the
>> terminal)
>
> how do I understand the original question, this step 4
> didn't work for the original inquirer; and still, he is
> unable to use the alternative way via kdesu
>
> and some said that it is okay that Konqueror can't be run as
> root
>
> and you said "The point is, I believe, that to disable root
> is considered a good thing."
>
> so keep on topic and explain to me, how do I do step 3 if
> root is disabled, and what is it good for?
What release of Fedora are you using? I ask because Dolphin is
a replacement file handler for Konqueror.
Another question. When you try to follow my instructions
(above) are you misspelling the name? I ask because konqueror
is spelled just like that. konqueror. All lower case letters.
Since Linux is a case sensitive OS the names 'konqueror' and
'Konqueror' are different. Several times you have used the
name with the capital 'K'. That won't work.
I ask because I use GNOME for my desktop and I had to install
KDE, since it was not installed, to check this. From a
terminal the name
konqueror opens konqueror
the name Konqueror
fails with
[root] /root/Desktop # Konqueror&
bash: Konqueror: command not found
[1] 2076
[1]+ Exit 127 Konqueror
[root] /root/Desktop #
But like I said I think what you need to use is Dolphin. *AND*
it is spelled with all lower case letters too. dolphin
And "root is disabled" is not true. The *GUI login* for root
is disabled but the root account is still there. It has to be
there.
> oh, and if you are really bored, you can answer my previous
> question that you have chosen to ignore in your reply - how
> are the Windows related, when we are talking about doing
> administrative tasks using the root account in Fedora, and
> not about using the Administrator account to do daily tasks
> in Windows?
Actually I did not answer because it does not really relate to
*your* major question.
I mentioned Windows because older versions, and newer ones
that are installed incorrectly, can be setup so that the user
has Administrator privileges when logged in. That allows any
malware to run with full access to the whole system. And you
really don't want that. If, in Linux, you run one application
as 'root' (as I described) that is the only place that
malware can run. In that terminal. If you run the whole
system as root, a GUI login as root for example, you open the
whole system to malware.
Modern, and correctly, installed Windows has an Administrator
and users. Users are limited as to what they can do. Which is
a good thing. And it is also the better way to run your Linux
system.
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Karel Volný
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