On 01/03/2013 03:43 PM, Jaroslav Reznik wrote:
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> On 01/03/2013 03:26 PM, Jaroslav Reznik wrote:
>> That's more - do not ship blindly, try to figure out as much as
>> possible
>> but within the time frame we have.
>
> You may not have been long enough sitting in the release chair to
> realize that the time frame that was used to initially determined the
> first release cycle of the Fedora has since long been out grown.
>
> Heck I cant even remember any release that has been manage to be
> shipped
> on time.
>
> Can you provide me with proper argument why it is so urgent to
> release
> now? Why the rush? What benefit it's supposed to bring to our end
> user
> instead of delivering them better complete working product?
The only argument - we look like fools. I admit this is my first
release, it's a fun one :) but - for F18, we were planning six
months release cycle (+some time for blocking issues, it's
non sense to release with blockers). But F18 was very different -
but changing the release cycle/planning should happen before.
Also we are still able to deliver very good product, it's always
about compromise - even if we would just scratch all "time based
release cycle" - you can aim on perfection, but we're not Hurd :)
It's always about scope, about resources - currently we do not
have resources to fix this in timely manner - if you will
volunteer, I'll reconsider. And yeah, it makes me sad we do not
have any stronger i18n teams around that could handle all these
issues - but it's again about resources.
Is that not even a more an indicator that that our release cycle is
simply to short and we should delay the release to late may/june when
F19 should have been released, so that little manpower we have to fix
those issue can address those issue in time?
JBG