Re: Galeon Request
by Jef Spaleta
nazeman wrote:
>I have a request. I have tested epiphany (the futur redhat default
>browser) and the bookmark tools is totaly inusable. example:
As another rabid galeon fan to another....
snowball's chance in hell that Red Hat is going to put galeon back into
the core rhl distro, before the switch over to a robust community based
development process. And even then...I'd be amazed if rhl added galeon
back in. And even though i LOVE galeon, I think I understand the bigger
picture well enough to know that galeon's superior featuritis is not the
point. Epiphany is going to be the default gnome browser going forward,
epiphany is trying to follow important gnome policy decisions like the
hig....galeon isn't...that difference is important, when the overall
goal of the distro is to provide a smooth integrated graphical desktop
experience for the majority of computer users.
I know I'm in the 0.00001% of the idiot-savant of computer users, I
don't expect the default applications to cater to my specific needs. I
also don't expect Red Hat to attempt to use their limited resources to
provide 87 different applications that try to do the same thing, but
cater to different segments of the userbase. If HIG compliant
application development is an important goal for core application
choices...then galeon isn't going to be a core app. But hopefully
galeon will continue to be available through community based addon
repositories like fedora and freshrpms...and as rhl moves towards
community friendly/community sponsered development....it really won't
matter if galeon is in core rhl, because it will be point and click easy
to interact with community repositories full of goodies like galeon. And
if the repo maintainers are really clever...they will make it easy to
pull iso images of repositories on something like a quarterly basis...so
you can have addon iso images to use when using rhl install isos.
If epiphany's bookmark tools are un-useful...then you should probably
get invovled upstream with the gnome development people and hammer out
something that provides a better balance of functionality and
simplicity.
-jef"bring back oneko!!!!!!"spaleta
20 years, 8 months
Galeon Request
by nazeman
Hello
I'm a redhat user from a long date.
I have a request. I have tested epiphany (the futur redhat default
browser) and the bookmark tools is totaly inusable. example:
I use bookmark for mozilla, netscape 4.7 and galeon. These tools work
great with bookmark.html. Have you tested a import from galeon to
epiphany ? I become a list with ~ 100 directory and 400 link ?!?,
inusable ! (sorry for this but is true)
I have a lot of bookmark ~ 800( sorted in directory and sub directory).
Can you perhaps add Galeon 1.3.7 in extra. I love galeon and i'm not the
only user work with bookmark.... (my bookmark file is from 3 year, with
update ;-) Galeon 2 is very stable (ximian version 1.3.5) and usable.
merci
http://www.nazeman.org/prive/galeon.jpg
130 Kb a example with a good bookmark tools
patrick
p.s. sorry for my poor english.... :-(
20 years, 8 months
Running Dictd server
by Ossama Khayaat
Hi,
I need to setup dictd protocol, on my Severn machine to test the English/Arabic GPL'd wordlist we're working on in Arabeyes (www.arabeyes.org/project.php?proj=wordlist).
I read the man pages of dict, and I understood it's a client tool, and not a server (right?).
Is there a package I need to install or a place from where I can get the .tar.gz source and compile it?
Regards,
Ossama Khayat
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20 years, 8 months
Laptop users with Synaptics touchpad, using kernel 2.6.x
by Mike A. Harris
I've noticed a fair number of people lately who have been testing
the 2.6.x kernel on laptops, reporting they are unable to use
their laptop's touchpad anymore.
This is a known issue which is related to ACPI. If you have one
of these touchpads, and it does not work (most or all of them
wont work), then currently you have to download a separate GPL
licensed "synaptics" driver from the following website:
http://tuxmobile.org/touchpad_driver.html
In order to use these devices under 2.6.x kernels right now, you
MUST download this driver binary, or download the source and
compile it yourself. I recommend using the binary driver as
compiling the source will be overly complex for most people.
This driver is not currently included in the Red Hat beta nor
rawhide. The driver, being GPL licensed, is best included in a
separate package outside of XFree86, since it does not come with
XFree86, and people will assume that it does if it is included
inside XFree86 packaging.
XFree86.org does not want to get bug reports from people about a
driver they do not supply or support, so I have intentionally not
added the driver to our XFree86 packaging.
Unfortunately, in order to compile the GPL'd driver outside of
XFree86 packaging, requires that you have a complete XFree86
source code tree installed and built, so that the driver can be
built against it. Currently, that would mean creating a
"synaptics-XFree86-driver" package, and adding the complete
XFree86 sources to the package and building them first, then
building the driver and then discarding XFree86, and packaging
the driver. That is quite a lot of hassle and overhead, as well
as making the package 60Mb+ bigger than it really needs to be.
The best solution all around, is to have an XFree86 driver
development kit, which allows externally supplied drivers that do
not come with XFree86 to be compiled with minimal source code and
required files. XFree86 has a package called "XFree86-SDK" which
is intended to allow drivers to be built externally like this,
which is minimal in size, however XFree86.org doesn't maintain
this functionality very well and it is usually broken quite
badly. It also doesn't work properly on all architectures we
need to support, and as such, the SDK is currently unuseable for
us. Also, the SDK only works for video drivers currently, and
not for input drivers.
At some point in the future, I will be making attempts to fix the
XFree86 SDK, make it work on all architectures properly, and add
support for input drivers.
This work is not planned to occur in the Cambridge project
timeframe however, and so the synaptics driver is in limbo right
now. I am going to be investigating this more deeply in a few
weeks time, however I'm not sure if there will be a sane way for
me to include this driver in RPM packaging or not.
Please don't file bug report requests to have the driver added,
as there are already several, and we're aware of the problem. If
I can come up with a decent solution in time, that doesn't create
more problems for us, or for XFree86.org, I will try to get the
driver in.
Thanks for your attention.
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20 years, 8 months
Re: pam src rpm replaced?
by Jef Spaleta
>Why does it
>have to take so long just to fix such a simple bug for which a fix is
>provided?
its called PRIORITIES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I doubt very much that at this
point in beta cycle developers are concentrating on the rebuild ability
of the spec files. And I'd imagine that very simple build errors in the
spec file during the beta phase are not all that uncommon. The fixes to
the spec files for rebuilding will most likely get fixed sometime before
the actual release...but we are SO far away from that actual
release...this is still the first set of beta isos.
>Not that I expect new pam rpms to be released for a single
>BuildRequires, but a simple "this will be fixed in the next release" would
>be nice.
Its a simple fix....it will get fixed...it might feel good to have a
conversation with a developer about it before it gets fixed...but that
is also a waste of developer time to write a comment to every single bug
report for every single simple spec file fix, or documentation fix or
whatever. Being that nice...doesn't scale. Your bug report clearly
doesn't require feedback....so be a little humble and sit back and
wait. If your bug makes it into the final beta isos, then you might
want to rattle your monkey cage a little to try to get some
attention...but right now I'm sure there are other more important
pressing matters that developers have to deal with...like vacation
time...this is august.
-jef"wouldn't it be fun to see what the typical number of new bugs a
typical red hat developer gets every week? I wonder how much time it
would time to write a "just to say hi" comment for each new bug"spaleta
20 years, 8 months
ALT-TAB is broken
by Mariusz Smykuła
In new gnome build ALT-TAB combination to switch windows is broken :(
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20 years, 8 months
mc needs XFree86-libs?
by Leonard den Ottolander
Hi,
Since when does the midnight commander depend on XFree86-libs (I'm still
mainly on 7.3)? What does it need XFree86-libs for?
Bye,
Leonard.
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20 years, 8 months
rawhide glibc problems?
by Joshua Legbandt
Since I upgraded my glibc to the latest rawhide rpms (glibc-2.3.2-71),
I've been having problems with yum, up2date and the rhn-applet.
yum returns the following when run:
Traceback (most recent call last):
File "/usr/bin/yum", line 22, in ?
import yummain
File "yummain.py", line 21, in ?
File "clientStuff.py", line 18, in ?
ImportError: /usr/lib/librt.so.1: symbol __librt_disable_asynccancel,
version GLIBC_PRIVATE not defined in file libc.so.6 with link time
reference
both up2date and the rhn-applet core.
I'd file a bugzilla report, but I am unclear as how to file it since
there is no entry for rawhide versions other than 1.0. How should these
be filed?
-Josh
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20 years, 8 months
about to RH a Compaq 3017CL notebook; RH9, severn, RH9 + 2.6?
by Randall J. Parr
I just purchased a Compaq 3000 (3017CL) notebook and plan to install Red
Hat.
I had planned on installing RH9 but it seems I have to start messing
with rebuilding the kernel and a bunch of other stuff to get ACPI, the
touchpad, built-in wireless, etc. all working.
I was wondering if any and/or all of these are already in Severn (thus
gaining beta problems but avoiding kernel rebuilding, etc.)?
Or perhaps using the 2.6 kernel rpms available for RH9?
Anyone tread this path already and have any advice they could offer?
Thanks
R.Parr, RHCE
Temporal Arts
20 years, 8 months