So a while back (i.e. maybe six years ago) there was an effort ongoing to get the FEniCS suite (https://fenicsproject.org/) packaged properly in Fedora. It appears that effort rolled up a few years ago without being completed, though a few of the required packages are still in the distribution.
Now some researchers here are wanting to use FEniCS and they're expecting me to make it work for them. Currently they're trying to install it through that mess that is Anadonda (but not that Anaconda, the other one that stole the name). It seems this comes in as several gigabytes of precompiled crap including its own C compiler, copies of system libraries like libibstcd++ and boost, its own version of Qt, and other horrific things I didn't even try to delve into. Why anyone thought this was a good idea, I'll never know, but there it is.
So, I'd like to look into what it would take to get things going again. But the problem is that I know nothing about FEniCS and will certainly never use the software myself, which makes me something less than a perfect candidate for a maintainer. Is there anyone else here that might be interested in having this software around in Fedora who might be able to help with maintainership?
Here's a rundown on the current status of the FEniCS-related packages:
* python-ufl, python-instant and python-fiat are currently in the distribution (owned by Fabian Affolter) but about 2.5 years out of date. * python-ufc was in the distribution but has been orphaned and retired since 2015. But I don't think it's needed currently. * python-viper isn't actually needed, I guess. * python-ffc and dolfin never completed review. * python-dijitso appears to be a new dependency. * I'm not sure if my folks need mshr. It (of course) seems to bundle CGAL and Tetgen, both of which are already packaged.
I don't yet know if any new requirements have shown up in the past few years. But if not, it looks like the effort involved is updating three packages and then getting three new packages made and into the distribution. Fortunately there are existing specfiles to crib from for two of those three (and for the most part, the python modules aren't terrible to package in any case).
So, is anyone interested in chipping in? Even if it's just with package reviews, that could be a great help.
- J<
Hey Jason,
I would be interested to help. I know when neurofedora was active Igor had certainly started looking at some of these. It would be a great reason to get back to that. I am rusty but happy to pitch in where I can.
Cheers,
-Morgan
On Wed, Apr 18, 2018 at 12:41 AM Jason L Tibbitts III tibbs@math.uh.edu wrote:
So a while back (i.e. maybe six years ago) there was an effort ongoing to get the FEniCS suite (https://fenicsproject.org/) packaged properly in Fedora. It appears that effort rolled up a few years ago without being completed, though a few of the required packages are still in the distribution.
Now some researchers here are wanting to use FEniCS and they're expecting me to make it work for them. Currently they're trying to install it through that mess that is Anadonda (but not that Anaconda, the other one that stole the name). It seems this comes in as several gigabytes of precompiled crap including its own C compiler, copies of system libraries like libibstcd++ and boost, its own version of Qt, and other horrific things I didn't even try to delve into. Why anyone thought this was a good idea, I'll never know, but there it is.
So, I'd like to look into what it would take to get things going again. But the problem is that I know nothing about FEniCS and will certainly never use the software myself, which makes me something less than a perfect candidate for a maintainer. Is there anyone else here that might be interested in having this software around in Fedora who might be able to help with maintainership?
Here's a rundown on the current status of the FEniCS-related packages:
- python-ufl, python-instant and python-fiat are currently in the distribution (owned by Fabian Affolter) but about 2.5 years out of date.
- python-ufc was in the distribution but has been orphaned and retired since 2015. But I don't think it's needed currently.
- python-viper isn't actually needed, I guess.
- python-ffc and dolfin never completed review.
- python-dijitso appears to be a new dependency.
- I'm not sure if my folks need mshr. It (of course) seems to bundle CGAL and Tetgen, both of which are already packaged.
I don't yet know if any new requirements have shown up in the past few years. But if not, it looks like the effort involved is updating three packages and then getting three new packages made and into the distribution. Fortunately there are existing specfiles to crib from for two of those three (and for the most part, the python modules aren't terrible to package in any case).
So, is anyone interested in chipping in? Even if it's just with package reviews, that could be a great help.
- J<
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Hi scitech-sig,
I just wanted to reply to this email of Jason’s and see if anyone has been working on this. I am going to contact the FEniCS forum/mailing list and I’ll try and update the status of the list of components.
Cheers,
-Morgan
On Wed, Apr 18, 2018 at 12:41 AM Jason L Tibbitts III tibbs@math.uh.edu wrote:
So a while back (i.e. maybe six years ago) there was an effort ongoing to get the FEniCS suite (https://fenicsproject.org/) packaged properly in Fedora. It appears that effort rolled up a few years ago without being completed, though a few of the required packages are still in the distribution.
Now some researchers here are wanting to use FEniCS and they're expecting me to make it work for them. Currently they're trying to install it through that mess that is Anadonda (but not that Anaconda, the other one that stole the name). It seems this comes in as several gigabytes of precompiled crap including its own C compiler, copies of system libraries like libibstcd++ and boost, its own version of Qt, and other horrific things I didn't even try to delve into. Why anyone thought this was a good idea, I'll never know, but there it is.
So, I'd like to look into what it would take to get things going again. But the problem is that I know nothing about FEniCS and will certainly never use the software myself, which makes me something less than a perfect candidate for a maintainer. Is there anyone else here that might be interested in having this software around in Fedora who might be able to help with maintainership?
Here's a rundown on the current status of the FEniCS-related packages:
- python-ufl, python-instant and python-fiat are currently in the distribution (owned by Fabian Affolter) but about 2.5 years out of date.
- python-ufc was in the distribution but has been orphaned and retired since 2015. But I don't think it's needed currently.
- python-viper isn't actually needed, I guess.
- python-ffc and dolfin never completed review.
- python-dijitso appears to be a new dependency.
- I'm not sure if my folks need mshr. It (of course) seems to bundle CGAL and Tetgen, both of which are already packaged.
I don't yet know if any new requirements have shown up in the past few years. But if not, it looks like the effort involved is updating three packages and then getting three new packages made and into the distribution. Fortunately there are existing specfiles to crib from for two of those three (and for the most part, the python modules aren't terrible to package in any case).
So, is anyone interested in chipping in? Even if it's just with package reviews, that could be a great help.
- J<
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