On Thu, 2009-07-02 at 09:15 -0400, Matthias Clasen wrote:
On Thu, 2009-07-02 at 12:44 +0100, Adam Williamson wrote:
> 1. To echo southern_gentleman, a live CD is key: you get far more people
> showing up if you provide a live CD. See the F11 cycle test day pages
> for examples on how to handle it (basically you just say 'up to date
> Rawhide OR the live CD image' in the requirements section, and there's
> another bit where you provide a link to download the live CD). Let me or
> James know if you have any trouble generating or providing a live CD.
Thanks for the offer. As things currently stand, it looks like
a) livecd building doesn't work reliable (failed for me, but worked for
Adam and Fedora Unity also has rawhide spins)
b) the isos are too large (see my mail from last night)
c) X doesn't work (at least in qemu)
Yikes. Yeah, things can be a bit hairy this early in the cycle :|.
Obvious stuff: try again each day (for some test days we have to try for
two or three days to generate a live CD, and just use the one that works
best), and test on real hardware (ISTR reading of some brokenness
between the current X server and the driver for the graphics card qemu
emulates by default, so that could be the problem there; it wouldn't
affect much real hardware, as qemu emulates a rather odd, very old card,
something Cirrus Logic if memory serves).
Also, it doesn't
> really follow the system used by previous Test Day pages. I'd suggest:
>
>
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Day:2009-07-07_fitandfinish_display_c...
>
> or something similar to that.
Sure, feel free to move it there.
Alright, I'll do that in a minute.
I'm a little torn on this one. Certainly, adding details is good,
in
general, and it certainly helps for reproducing problems if things are
written down step-by-step. But on the other hand, we hope to find issues
that get in the way of people using their system in the way _they_ want
to use it for getting concrete things done, not things that don't work
as they try to follow a recipe for testing something... So I think we'll
have to experiment a little bit with finding the right balance here.
I'll have a go at adding a more detailed writeup for some of the display
configuration use cases.
Good points indeed: if you want testing to be a bit more free form, test
cases may not be the best way. I'll leave this up to your judgment
then :)
> 4. There's a few superficial things - the intro could
specify that this
> is a Fit and Finish track test day, there's no space before ? at the end
> of a sentence in English, stuff like that - but I'll just fix those
> myself, I think.
Yeah, if you care about punctuation, please help yourself. I usually
leave my Strunk at home when I go into the wiki...
OK, will do. It's not super important, but it does give a good
impression of a project that knows what it's doing, when your page is
nicely laid out and free of language issues :)
I added a new column to the Fedora 12 Test Days schedule page, to show
the schedule for fit and finish test days:
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA/Fedora_12_test_days
does that look good to you? If not, an alternative would be for it to
have its own page, looking much like that page, called something like
Fit_and_finish_test_days , linked from the same top page
(
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA/Test_Days ).
Thanks again!
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