On Sun, 2006-01-15 at 08:05 -0600, Justin Conover wrote:
I'm curious how many of the 64 bit os users out there, really
need a
64bit web browser?
Is there any reason you couldn't live with a 32 bit one?
I rather not have unnecessary 32bit libs installed.
Plus, I don't really like/need/use flash.
Can Fedora put firefox.i386 in the x86_64 tree, just like several
other i386 rpms?
As long as it's optional, I don't see any reason why not.
I realize adding it is pretty simple, I've done it for a long time.
However with processors being realitivly cheap new users are buying
the amd64 all the time and want to run a 64 bit os. We either turn
around and tell them, go to
mozilla.org grab the package and install
it else were ( can't find fedora bugs ) or cp your fedora.repo add
i386 through it, and overlap a hole lot of packages, "have fun with
that"....
I personally use one from
mozilla.org at the moment because I do need
things like flash and plugins like that. Before you start whining
telling me its closed source, my wife is a photorgrapher and her
website has a lot of flash, I'm sure many of you can understand
telling your wife no, can't go to your website because you used closed
source flash would go over like a lead ballon ;) And its not just
here site, I go to a lot of places that have flash and so do a lot of
people.
Flash itself is a big pile of ****.
It still uses OSS sound.
It eats huge amount of CPU time just to display useless adverts.
Anyway, I propose we either
1.) add firefox.i386 and all the deps to the x86_64 tree and install
it by default.
What default? Just for flash?
2.) step 1 plus just drop the x86_64 version.
Again, you want flash? you want 32bit firefox? good for you!
Either install the required 32bit depths or install a 32bit OS to being
with.
If you don't see a performance difference between 32bit and 64bit, why
did you bother to go 64bit in the first place?
3.) tell me to take a hike
I'm too polite. ;)
4. Wait for the open source flash player to mature.
(
http://www.gnu.org/software/gnash/)
I don't care which way you do it, like I said I can get it and
have
for a long time, but I'm not new to linux, new to 64bit OS or new to
Fedora, and think that person would have a better time in Fedora if
they can use there browser the first go round and get plugins and
whatever else to work.
If you want to be an early adapter and use 64bit *now*, you'll have to
learn how to live with missing software/hardware/what-ever support.
Else, stick to 32bit till the 64bit arch matures.
Gilboa