OK, so we changed the interface yet again for the user in Gnome 3/gnome-shell. Just how does one logoff or do a switch user?? I can do a shutdown/restart. I can suspend. I can bring up the setting application. But logout and switch user seems to have gotten lost ... or if it is there it sure is not obvious!
Gene
On Wed, Sep 18, 2013 at 3:49 PM, Gene Czarcinski gene@czarc.net wrote:
OK, so we changed the interface yet again for the user in Gnome 3/gnome-shell. Just how does one logoff or do a switch user?? I can do a shutdown/restart. I can suspend. I can bring up the setting application. But logout and switch user seems to have gotten lost ... or if it is there it sure is not obvious!
Click on your name inside the top right menu. It should open a submenu with the options in it.
On Wed, 2013-09-18 at 15:54 +0200, drago01 wrote:
Click on your name inside the top right menu. It should open a submenu with the options in it.
The user name only shows up if there's more than one user on the system. I just created a new user and it popped up. Wasn't there earlier.
If there's only one user, the log out option doesn't appear and you need to run "gnome-session-quit" in the "alt f2" command dialog to log out.
On Thu, 2013-09-19 at 11:02 +1000, Ankur Sinha wrote:
If there's only one user, the log out option doesn't appear and you need to run "gnome-session-quit" in the "alt f2" command dialog to log out.
Ok, clever idea. Just wondering what kind of thought went into this though. I can't count the times I have been ordered to 'logout and back on' after a round of updates. Reboot? Every year Windows is getting a little better and we are getting a little more like it... too bad we are taking the bad ideas about as often as the good ones.
On 09/20/2013 10:44 PM, John Morris wrote:
On Thu, 2013-09-19 at 11:02 +1000, Ankur Sinha wrote:
If there's only one user, the log out option doesn't appear and you need to run "gnome-session-quit" in the "alt f2" command dialog to log out.
Ok, clever idea. Just wondering what kind of thought went into this though. I can't count the times I have been ordered to 'logout and back on' after a round of updates. Reboot? Every year Windows is getting a little better and we are getting a little more like it... too bad we are taking the bad ideas about as often as the good ones.
The same thought process that dielete the name from the top panel rather than just changing the default to non-display. Mmmm ... maybe this is the same thought process that made session-save stop working but I have found a way that I can live with that new "feature".
Gene
On Mon, 2013-09-23 at 10:25 -0400, Gene Czarcinski wrote:
Ok, clever idea. Just wondering what kind of thought went into this though. I can't count the times I have been ordered to 'logout and
back
on' after a round of updates. Reboot? Every year Windows is
getting a
little better and we are getting a little more like it... too bad we
are
taking the bad ideas about as often as the good ones.
The new "software" app has a button "reboot and install updates". Similarly, packagekit-gui can have a "logout to refresh packages" button if it doesn't already. File an RFE?
I also think there are extensions that add the "logout" key to the user menu.
The same thought process that dielete the name from the top panel rather than just changing the default to non-display. Mmmm ... maybe this is the same thought process that made session-save stop working but I have found a way that I can live with that new "feature".
As always, sarcasm and ranting does not help :)
On 09/18/2013 08:49 AM, Gene Czarcinski wrote:
OK, so we changed the interface yet again for the user in Gnome 3/gnome-shell. Just how does one logoff or do a switch user?? I can do a shutdown/restart. I can suspend. I can bring up the setting application. But logout and switch user seems to have gotten lost ... or if it is there it sure is not obvious!
Gene
Try this
gsettings set org.gnome.shell always-show-log-out true
to get the username in the right corner menu under which log out will appear.
On 09/18/2013 09:59 AM, nonamedotc wrote:
On 09/18/2013 08:49 AM, Gene Czarcinski wrote:
OK, so we changed the interface yet again for the user in Gnome 3/gnome-shell. Just how does one logoff or do a switch user?? I can do a shutdown/restart. I can suspend. I can bring up the setting application. But logout and switch user seems to have gotten lost ... or if it is there it sure is not obvious!
Gene
Try this
gsettings set org.gnome.shell always-show-log-out true
to get the username in the right corner menu under which log out will appear.
I usually run something a little lighter weight in virtuals such as xfce and I also usually have a couple of userid defined but this was initial testing of of F20 and I had never seen the "no logout" before.
I am not sure I like the new look ... maybe there will be some extension to put it back the way it was with the User's name being displayed.
Gene
On Wed, 2013-09-18 at 10:37 -0400, Gene Czarcinski wrote:
On 09/18/2013 09:59 AM, nonamedotc wrote:
On 09/18/2013 08:49 AM, Gene Czarcinski wrote:
OK, so we changed the interface yet again for the user in Gnome 3/gnome-shell. Just how does one logoff or do a switch user?? I can do a shutdown/restart. I can suspend. I can bring up the setting application. But logout and switch user seems to have gotten lost ... or if it is there it sure is not obvious!
Gene
Try this
gsettings set org.gnome.shell always-show-log-out true
to get the username in the right corner menu under which log out will appear.
I usually run something a little lighter weight in virtuals such as xfce and I also usually have a couple of userid defined but this was initial testing of of F20 and I had never seen the "no logout" before.
I am not sure I like the new look ... maybe there will be some extension to put it back the way it was with the User's name being displayed.
It was changed because people complained about having their name visible in public places where they might not want it to be.
On Fri, 2013-09-20 at 00:56 -0700, Adam Williamson wrote:
It was changed because people complained about having their name visible in public places where they might not want it to be. --
Thats one reason. Another one is that it tends to be too big - e.g. if your name is Williamson...
On 09/20/2013 11:54 AM, Matthias Clasen wrote:
On Fri, 2013-09-20 at 00:56 -0700, Adam Williamson wrote:
It was changed because people complained about having their name visible in public places where they might not want it to be. --
Thats one reason. Another one is that it tends to be too big - e.g. if your name is Williamson...
On the other hand, I sometimes use different identities for different functions and find it useful to be able to glance up to the upper right corner and see what identity I am. I can understand the identity being non-visible by default but it would be handy if there was still the option instead of the silly shutdown symbol.
Gene
On Fri, 2013-09-20 at 12:35 -0400, Gene Czarcinski wrote:
On 09/20/2013 11:54 AM, Matthias Clasen wrote:
On Fri, 2013-09-20 at 00:56 -0700, Adam Williamson wrote:
It was changed because people complained about having their name visible in public places where they might not want it to be. --
Thats one reason. Another one is that it tends to be too big - e.g. if your name is Williamson...
On the other hand, I sometimes use different identities for different functions and find it useful to be able to glance up to the upper right corner and see what identity I am. I can understand the identity being non-visible by default but it would be handy if there was still the option instead of the silly shutdown symbol.
Well, there is. Someone already posted the option about five posts ago.
On 09/20/2013 01:22 PM, Adam Williamson wrote:
On Fri, 2013-09-20 at 12:35 -0400, Gene Czarcinski wrote:
On 09/20/2013 11:54 AM, Matthias Clasen wrote:
On Fri, 2013-09-20 at 00:56 -0700, Adam Williamson wrote:
It was changed because people complained about having their name visible in public places where they might not want it to be. --
Thats one reason. Another one is that it tends to be too big - e.g. if your name is Williamson...
On the other hand, I sometimes use different identities for different functions and find it useful to be able to glance up to the upper right corner and see what identity I am. I can understand the identity being non-visible by default but it would be handy if there was still the option instead of the silly shutdown symbol.
Well, there is. Someone already posted the option about five posts ago.
Could you point to where that is posted? I looked at https://extensions.gnome.org/ and did not see anything that could be it.
On Mon, 2013-09-23 at 10:46 -0400, Gene Czarcinski wrote:
On 09/20/2013 01:22 PM, Adam Williamson wrote:
On Fri, 2013-09-20 at 12:35 -0400, Gene Czarcinski wrote:
On 09/20/2013 11:54 AM, Matthias Clasen wrote:
On Fri, 2013-09-20 at 00:56 -0700, Adam Williamson wrote:
It was changed because people complained about having their name visible in public places where they might not want it to be. --
Thats one reason. Another one is that it tends to be too big - e.g. if your name is Williamson...
On the other hand, I sometimes use different identities for different functions and find it useful to be able to glance up to the upper right corner and see what identity I am. I can understand the identity being non-visible by default but it would be handy if there was still the option instead of the silly shutdown symbol.
Well, there is. Someone already posted the option about five posts ago.
Could you point to where that is posted? I looked at https://extensions.gnome.org/ and did not see anything that could be it.
Well, I was thinking of this:
"gsettings set org.gnome.shell always-show-log-out true
to get the username in the right corner menu under which log out will appear."
but now I read it again, that's not exactly what you want. Oh, well.
On Fri, 2013-09-20 at 11:54 -0400, Matthias Clasen wrote:
On Fri, 2013-09-20 at 00:56 -0700, Adam Williamson wrote:
It was changed because people complained about having their name visible in public places where they might not want it to be. --
Thats one reason. Another one is that it tends to be too big - e.g. if your name is Williamson...
Never had a problem with it. I know the designers seem to be incredibly eager to keep a huge sea of black space in the panel for no apparent reason, but in practical terms, I've always had plenty of space on all the systems I've run Shell on.