YAST and YUM Front-end
by Rory Gleeson
I have three words for Red Hat:
"Embrace and Extend"
But seriously, the company that gets the Package Manager right will get
the customers. Mandrake has tried but hasn't quite made it, although
they've done a decent job. Their manager is just split in to too many
different drakes now. They need to go back, simplify and bring them all
together, as posters here are suggesting needs to be done with a Yum
front-end that accomplishes all tasks.
YAST works but Fedora appears to have many other strengths in hardware
and network recognition, easy kernel upgrades (MDK has missed the boat
on that one) and that sweet little up2date panel icon. So, I prefer
Fedora. It's also more open than SuSE, which is important.
While it may take a bit of humility for Red Hat to consider the idea of
adopting YAST, there's nothing wrong with incorporating YAST in to Red
Hat products, or **at least experimenting with the idea by incorporating
it in to Fedora Core 3**. Now that YAST is GPL, a lot of start-up
distros will quickly embrace it and I think it could easily and quickly
become a standard.
There's are nothing wrong with open source standards. Beats forking.
And vendors would love it. The community needs to get behind vanilla
kernels (as Fedora is doing), standard RPM's and stop forcing developers
to modify their software for different distros. Silly and
short-sighted. Make it easy for software manufacturers to build one
program with one installation method that works on all flavours of Linux
and Billy Gates problems continue to mount. YAST may be that solution.
If nothing else, Fedora would shock the bloody hell out of the Linux
community and Novell with that little announcment. ;)
So, I take it back... don't "embrace and extend."
Simply "Embrace."
~Rory
Toronto, Canada
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Message: 8
Date: Sun, 9 May 2004 11:51:10 -0700
From: Sean Earp <smearp(a)mac.com>
Subject: Re: Call for Yum Frontend
To: For testers of Fedora Core development releases
<fedora-test-list(a)redhat.com>
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SuSE just (or is in the process of) GPL'ing it's YAST tool (which
combines the basic functions of Anaconda, system-config-packages, and
up2date/yum)
http://news.com.com/2100-7344_3-5175682.html?tag=nefd_top
(donning flame suite now...)
19 years, 11 months
FC2: rdiff-backup not working from stable fedora.us
by Gregory Petit
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Hi,
could someone get rdiff-backup working on FC2?
I installed the following rpm's on my 64-bit system:
librsync-0.9.6-0.fdr.5.2.i386.rpm
rdiff-backup-0.12.6-0.fdr.1.2.i386.rpm
The installation went fine, but when I try to run rdiff-backup, I get the
following errors:
Traceback (most recent call last):
File "/usr/bin/rdiff-backup", line 20, in ?
import rdiff_backup.Main
File "/usr/lib/python2.3/site-packages/rdiff_backup/Main.py", line 25, in ?
import Globals, Time, SetConnections, selection, robust, rpath, \
File "/usr/lib/python2.3/site-packages/rdiff_backup/SetConnections.py", line
30, in ?
import Globals, FilenameMapping, connection, rpath
File "/usr/lib/python2.3/site-packages/rdiff_backup/connection.py", line
529, in ?
import Globals, Time, Rdiff, Hardlink, FilenameMapping, C, Security, \
File "/usr/lib/python2.3/site-packages/rdiff_backup/Rdiff.py", line 22, in ?
import os, librsync
File "/usr/lib/python2.3/site-packages/rdiff_backup/librsync.py", line 27,
in ?
import _librsync, types, array
ImportError: /usr/lib/python2.3/site-packages/rdiff_backup/_librsync.so:
cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
Does someone knows a solution for this problem? If not, should this be a bug
for fedora bugzilla or fedora.us bugzilla?
Thanks and kind regards,
Gregory
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19 years, 11 months
Why is "LANG=en_US.UTF-8" the default in Fedora
by Ernest L. Williams Jr.
Hi,
Many applications seem to have a problem with the default locale in
Fedora. (e.g. adobe acrobat reader)
Why is the default US.UTF-8?
Thanks,
--
Ernest L. Williams Jr. <ernesto(a)ornl.gov>
19 years, 11 months
Re: safe to remove IPV6 from kernel?
by Stan Bubrouski
On Sat, 2004-05-22 at 10:25, Alan Cox wrote:
> On Fri, May 21, 2004 at 10:50:38PM -0400, Stan Bubrouski wrote:
> > First of all I'm sick of this attitude Warren. I wasn't asking YOU to
> > remove IPv6 from the kernel. My question was if I remove it, am I going
> > to face problems...
>
> gftp might break. There was a bug with gftp and ipv6 aware sites that
> Im not sure was fixed by gftp updates, by the fact with have ipv6 or
> in both.
>
Thank you. That would bother me ;-)
Can you give me any further details on this? I looked at the bugzilla
post https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=122268
It states gftp-2.0.14-5 is ok, but gftp-2.0.17-0-FC1 can't deal with
sites with IPv6 name servers. Obviously going back to 2.0.14 is not
very feasible due to a number of other bugs. I'm gonna grab some old
packages and see if I can see where this broke and what broke it
upstream.
Regards,
Stan
> Alan
>
19 years, 11 months
Sorry...
by Stan Bubrouski
Hey,
Sorry I haven't been very polite on these lists lately, and I've been
more than a little unfair to Warren Togami specifically. And I know its
totally my fault. I'm man enough to admit it.
But can someone point me to a place where it tells with specificity what
should be asked on what list? Seems like even people who run the lists
are sometimes unclear on where certain topics should end up. I realize
that not everything is appropriate for these lists, but I'd like to have
my questions answered and so I'd like to know for certain what list is
for what...
Are their charters or anything anywhere?
Best Regards,
Stan Bubrouski
PS. Sorry again Warren, I know I'm a complete tool sometimes.
19 years, 11 months
RE: K3b ?
by Fred New
On May 20, 2004, at 15:41, Lars wrote:
> it's in the fedora extras repo.
> http://download.fedora.us/fedora/fedora/latest
>
> lars
>
> jim tate wrote:
>
> > Where do I download K3b for FC2?
> >
Is there some reason you aren't using the k3b on the FC2 CDs? There is
also some mention of k3b in the release notes.
Fred
19 years, 11 months
FC2 USB Devices
by Paul Watkins
I have FC2 installed -- but the USB devices are not setup properly.
Where do I locate settings for USB devices under FC2? Is it under
/udev? Things worked fine under FC1 and some of the early tests of FC2
-- but after the upgrade to FC2 final -- no USB devices are detected --
at least the USB controller harware is detected but the devices don't
appear to be mapped properly.
Paul
19 years, 11 months
kernel 2.6.6
by Mike Lurk
In the latest kernel (2.6.6) the intel i810 graphics do not run anything
openGL, all it does is lock up the system. With the old kernel (2.6.5)
it worked. One other point, where has the kernel-source file gone to.
Have I overlooked something.
Mike Lurk
19 years, 11 months